Rejection of two-State solution by Israeli leadership 'unacceptable', says UN chief (news.un.org)

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"This refusal [of a two-state solution], and the denial of the right to statehood to the Palestinian people, would indefinitely prolong a conflict that has become a major threat to global peace and security," UN Secretary-General António Guterres says.

UN council members roundly called for the two-State solution to be realized and for an end to the war, with many calling for an immediate ceasefire to end the suffering of Palestinians and allow the aid they urgently need to be delivered unhindered.

Many speakers from the wider UN membership echoed those calls.

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[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A two-state solution would not have worked in Germany in 1946 and it would not work here. Israel is responsible for every Palestinian life despite their denials. One state with equal rights for all, and probably a new constitution which would make another Netanyahu impossible, is the path forward. To preempt the common revisionist Zionist argument, I don't think the Palestinians are too primitive and barbaric to deserve full rights. I'm from the American South and that argument is very familiar to me.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 16 points 5 months ago

OK, so when is anybody going to do anything about it?

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 14 points 5 months ago

So many "unacceptable" things Israel does always just seem to get accepted.

Even the standard "sternly written letter" gets vetoed.

[-] tesseract@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The veto power is the truly horrendous idea that's the nail in the coffin for the UN. It's based on neither the representation of population, nor on justice. Rather, it's based on military might and the ability to bully the other nations. Even neglecting the fact that the world order is subject to change and challenges, it's hardly surprising that any nation takes the UN seriously with such a petulant assertion of authority. Whoever came up with that idea isn't a visionary of world peace - but rather a moron drunk on the kool-aid of ensuring world peace through the military might of a few over the self respect of the rest.

[-] ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago

This is a misunderstanding of the UN's primary purpose. The UN is a diplomatic organization meant to enable a baseline minimum amount of diplomatic interaction. It's primary raison d'etre is preventing a world war / nuclear war. If military might was not respected, then nations would leave the negotiating table and large wars would be harder to avoid. The veto was instrumental in establishing the UN in the first place.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

Israel has absolutely no right to reject the two-state solution. I'm beginning to feel that Israel itself has no right to exist any longer. The only outcome that will ever work in any way, under any circumstances, is to allow Palestine to have it's own independence and its own territory. If Israel rejects that idea, we need to reject Israel and do our best to wipe them off the face of the earth for the good of the rest of mankind.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

we need to reject Israel and do our best to wipe them off the face of the earth

We need to differentiate between Israel as an administrative-state/ country, and the literal Israeli people as individuals.

And "wipe them off the face of the earth" sounds like you're talking about the latter.

If you are, please take that rhetoric elsewhere.

No colonial state has a right to exist, but there is a difference between calling for de-col and calling for 'wiping [people] off the face of the earth'.

[-] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago

Wow I went bit over the top didn't I. I shouldn't have said we need to wipe the whole state off the face of the earth. Just the bloodthirsty ones.

I'm not sure Israeli people are to blame, but the government certainly is. And it seems there is no way to get better people into office there.

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