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[-] verdare@beehaw.org 70 points 9 months ago

I think signed hardware components are actually a good thing. The problem is that Apple makes it so that unapproved hardware doesn’t work at all. I think the device should warn the user, but allow them to override and continue at their own risk.

Of course, Apple isn’t going to allow that unless they’re forced to. Glances sideways at the EU.

[-] JustARegularNerd@aussie.zone 24 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it would be a fantastic thing if it showed a permanent history of parts and their serials in the settings, as well as a date on which the change was noticed, so you have an idea of the history of the phone and what's been replaced. And, of course, not locking you out of features.

[-] MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com 12 points 9 months ago

With the healthy second-hand market for iPhones, that would be great. Let buyers decide how they feel about previous repairs, offer transparency.

The unhelpful move is requiring a connection to Apple’s servers to calibrate replacement parts.

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 10 points 9 months ago

Makes me wish Google hadn't canned phonebloks. Can you imagine how much waste we could have cut down on if we decided to standardize every component like the usb-c port?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

I think we would need something like a Framework.
Project Ara had no future if all modules need a case for protection AND the components.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Phonbloks would never have worked. Phones are all different shapes and sizes, so you just run into tons of compatibility issues whenever you want to upgrade anything, as new components will be larger than the old ones. Technology just doesn't progress in ways that nicely fits into form factors from five years ago, fingerprint reader, FaceID, multiple cameras, wireless charging, etc. None of that fit into a block model. Phones are also a weird market place where people give up headphones and replaceable batteries if it makes their phone 1mm thinner, so a big bulky modular device would really have much chance against the much sleeker competition.

Fairphone is a much better compromise, it's modular and repairable, but in a way that is actually practical. Turning everything into LEGO blocks looks fun in concept images, but nobody would want to use that.

Moto Z is/was another more interesting approach, instead of making the phone itself modular, it has some contacts on the back to dock extension modules. So you get extensibility without really changing anything about the phone itself.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

Sounds good, but how do you stop an unscrupulous repair shop from clearing the warning before the end user can see it?

If it is persistent but buried in settings, most people won’t notice.

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Maybe the warning could require Apple sign-in to dismiss, but can be hidden at startup? Then make it an industry standard to present the phone when it is powered off.

EDIT: Yes, I know that this is still shitty for most customers.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

Hello Customer, we need your iCloud sign in to authorize the new part

[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, unfortunately that would be up to the average person knowing better than to give out passwords.

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