this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
319 points (94.2% liked)

Fediverse

28721 readers
85 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!

Rules

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The nice thing about Lemmy is that it doesn’t have celibrities and NBA players.

If you are starting with something that is completely subjective, how do you expect to get any meaningful discussion? You might not care about these things. It doesn't mean that this is not important to others.

Also, it's not just about the celebrities and NBA players. It's about the conversation surrounding these different interests.

…eternal September . It would be guaranteed to happen.

It happened on Reddit many years ago, and because of the long tail it simply didn't matter. Just stay from the (relative) popular subs and things work quite well, as long as they are some minimal critical mass. If you are the type that insists in participating in tiring and pointless discussions about politics, then yeah you are going to have a bad time.

marketers are gonna do the same thing they did to reddit.

Conjecture, that's not a certainty. In an open network, it's a lot easier to design and implement systems where you can actually verify who is behind an account. Or to implement a system that filters content from anyone who is not part of your web of trust. Or to do like spam filters that run content analysis before even hitting your inbox. You can not implement these things on closed networks because it would destroy their KPIs, but we don't care about that here.

I’d argue Lemmy isn’t the end solution,

Of course it isn't, but it's the best we have at the moment. If we keep waiting for some ideal solution before working to get people out of the closed systems, it will never happen. Worse still, if we don't get more people, we will hit a local maxima and never innovate. This is already happening on Mastodon.

where no government or organization can control, regulate, and most importantly one that cannot be manipulated for gain of a nation state or corporation.

Here we agree, 100%.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

thank you for the link, it was an interesting read. I really like the idea of using a web browser, like firefox or a fork of it, as a basis point for a distributed social web.

I don't really understand how it would do that but it is a very interesting idea. I guess since firefox is open source anyone could create this ability. Is there a discussion about this somewhere on the web? Lemmy is a good a place as any as it's too unimportant and tiny right now ;)

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks!

Maybe I wasn't too clear on the post about one thing, though. There is no need to fork the browser. I believe this could be implemented as a simple browser extension or even as Progressive Web App, like Voyager or Elk. The idea that I'm working with is actually to fork either one of these applications and just change its internal libraries to make it "speak" ActivityPub directly, instead of using Mastodon's or Lemmy's APIs.

Is there a discussion about this somewhere on the web?

Specifically about this approach, no. But https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse:pixie.town is a good room for people working in Fediverse/Social Web.