this post was submitted on 23 Aug 2024
474 points (98.2% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27240 readers
2230 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

For me, it may be that the toilet paper roll needs to have the open end away from the wall. I don't want to reach under the roll to take a piece! That's ludicrous!

That or my recent addiction to correcting people when they use "less" when they should use "fewer"

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Uncle_Abbie@lemmy.today 39 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I don't care what Big Dictionary has to say about it, "literally" does NOT mean "figuratively."

If "literally" means "figuratively," then we literally have no word for "literally."

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

Literally doesn't mean figuratively, but acting like people can't use sarcasm or hyperbole with exactly one word ("literally") is silly.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

We've already gone through "very", "truly", "really", "actually", and probably many more. I just don't think humans were meant to have an antonym for "figuratively". It's too much power for any single person to wield.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we do though. it's "literally". just because a word is used in a figurative sense it doesn't lose its literal meaning. and literally in itself is not some magical word that is immune from figurative use. it's just another word.

[–] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think they're more taking issue with that some dictionaries have seen the figurative use of the word and added figurative as a definition for the word.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

you mean doing their job

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Sorry I'm late, Traffic was murder".

"Someone tried to kill you in traffic?!"

Murder: something very difficult or dangerous

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Data, is that you? How do you not understand what murder means in that context? If you do something and someone says "you killed it!" do you turn yourself in to the police or do you plan escaping to another country?

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm with you. For me it's decimate to mean " destroy most of" instead of destroy 10%. Deci literally means one tenth. How much do you think a deciliter is?

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You can decimate an opposing army an infinite number of times and never defeat them. 🤷

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 months ago

The last soldier who's lost most of their body one tenth at a time would like to disagree with you

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

the word decimate could be interpreted as "reduce to tenth" that would make the act "destroy 90% of"

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

"Island" only has an 's' as a stylistic choice writers started to use to make it look more Latin. The word "Island" does not have any Latin roots.

Language changes. Trying to fight it just makes you an old man yelling at the cloud.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

If "literally" means "figuratively," then we literally have no word for "literally."

It’s worth pointing out that you just used the word for “literally” and we knew which sense of the word you meant through context. Just like the verb “dust” can mean to put a layer of small particles on something but can also mean to remove the small particles from something. Humans are able to sort these things out.

However, one of the best things about language is that if a need actually arises for more clarity about “literalness”, a solution will naturally emerge to address it.

Even the word “literal” started out as a word that pertained specifically to the written word, and scholarly things, and its sense evolved to refer to things not necessarily written down, to the present meaning of “the most straightforward interpretation of what I’m saying”. A need arose and a word filled the need.