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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 106 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

His campaign managers are concerned he would say that publicly? Why?! Why do we still act like his cultists would be bothered? Why do we act like they have a fraction of humility and demeanour left in their bodies? They would love to hear that. Where the fuck have you been the last 8 years? Did you pay any attention?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The issue they have is, Trump can't win with just his base. He needs to appeal to at least some percentage of voters outside of that group. It seems like he's been doing everything he can to push anyone who isn't already all in on him away since Biden stepped down.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 2 months ago (5 children)

And yet Harris is only 2% in the lead.

America is a fucked up country. I pray for y’all.

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

America is three countries in a trenchcoat.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

According to an interesting book I read a couple years ago called american nations, more like 9

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

Some scientists have posited the number could even be as high as 50.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We’re like the EU but with a fully federal budget and laws, which explains a lot

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I used to be in favour of a federal europe until I saw America go to shit with Trump elected in 2016.

Now I’m more ambivalent. The confederation model sounds better…

(Confederation is an alliance where members retain sovriginity) Not talking about the US confederacy

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Half the reason Trump succeeds as much as he does is due to designed corruption at the state level. Republicans grabbing local elections and using them to upend the system. From psychotic school boards to regressive judges to grandstanding attorneys general.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Flip that reasoning entirely, my dude. If the feds ran elections fully then Trump wouldn’t have needed to make the call to the GA Sec of State to “find” more votes. He would have just fired people until he got a yes from whatever federal employee could do it

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No, because that's the entire point of project 2025. He wants to replace all those federal employees with political appointments so that he can actually do things like that. Trump would have loved it if he could just fire people until they do what he tells them to do. Thankfully that's not how most the federal government works. He wants to be able to control every Federal agency but thankfully that's not the way it's set up. It will be if he's elected though.

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Cool I'll give it a read.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think of America more as a swarm of 50 plus angry pigeons tied together at the neck with string.

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be if they were connected at the tail? This is more of a disorganised avian garroting caused by a constant futile bid for meaningful independence.

[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pigeon king.

Land of confusion.

Clink of coin.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump has never won the popular vote, his 2016 victory was based on highly gerrymandered areas with low populations and a high number of electoral votes. America is being held hostage by wealthy donors.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yet he was leading in popular vote pols for a solid 9 months before Biden dropped out. If Biden had stayed, he would likely have won the popular vote.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We’ll never know, the only “poll” which matters is the election.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A poll is just an estimate. Obviously we will never know. But were the election held a couple months ago (vs Biden) Trump would have about an 85% chance of winning according to the best statistical models. (Source: used to work as data scientist for a major pollster and obsess over this stuff for fun)

[–] don@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I pray for y’all.

The US already has millions of Christians.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

We need far more than prayers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She's also been running for less than a month.

Well Biden was 2 points behind if you want to compare

[–] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

He said the other day in the interview that his base is 75% of America, so...

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

That is a problem they are trying to solve yes

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They aren't worried about alienating his base. They don't want to galvanize hers.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

They don't care if he says it. They just care if he gets caught saying it. Big distinction. They know their candidate is a racist shit bag.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago

"It's ok. He says negative things about a lot of people."

This is the excuse I got when I pointed out video of TFG mocking the disabled reporter to a die-hard Trumper. Also, she has a kid with Downs. Still didn't break the Trump spell over her. She used to be normal.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"That is not language President Trump has used to describe Kamala, and it's not how the campaign would characterize her."

The most interesting thing about this statement is they have set Trump up to fail. Because you know he's going to say that into a microphone at some point during this campaign.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they have a saboteur.

Or they’re just that incompetent. But you’re right.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

20 bucks, he will say it during their live debate. If it happens. Last time I checked, Donnie chickened out.

[–] nulluser@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

And it won't make an ounce of difference if he does. Access Hollywood proved that already.