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[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 137 points 6 days ago

I have an in-law that’s a teacher, and she says it’s fucking crazy how radicalized some kids are. Her coworkers have dealt with 11 year old boys straight up telling female teachers they don’t have to listen to them because they’re women.

They’re apparently always talking about shithead influencers like Andrew Tate too, and the ones that aren’t down the pipeline are definitely still heavily exposed to the ideas. Real disturbing shit.

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl 73 points 5 days ago

Hoo boy there's a little tidbit I'd rather not know

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I’m hoping that it’s just the gen z/alpha version of an edgy atheist phase that they outgrow. For what it’s worth she also says a lot of kids are way more chill about LGBT students, including being respectful of pronouns.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 30 points 5 days ago

My experience with teenage atheists is that they usually remain atheists into adulthood.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 5 days ago

They (hopefully) outgrow the edgy part, though, was my point.

[-] Drusas@kbin.run 11 points 5 days ago

I think you might have picked the wrong topic, then. Atheism tends to be sincere and not just edgy.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago

I'm an atheist and that's why I specified the edgy part.

[-] Vittelius@feddit.de 7 points 5 days ago

But if they are edgy misogynists in their teens and then they outgrow the edgy part...

... Then we'll still have a bunch of misogynists on our hand, but now their beliefs are sincere rather than performative.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

It was an internet comment, not a thesis.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Really hard to take a niche religious belief seriously without a large dedicated community of fellow practitioners.

Like, if you're not regularly going to a church, there's no peer network or social reproduction. You might become "spiritual", but it's going to be some religion you invented in your own head that's divorced from any other formal setting. As likely as a non-athletic teenager suddenly becoming a baseball professional.

Organized religion is as much about the organization as the religion.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 20 points 5 days ago

At least for atheism there's a non-edgy, civilized version. For whatever this is, I don't think you can make it more palatable without just throwing out the entire mindset

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 13 points 5 days ago

Us former edgy atheists didn't go back to church (mostly)

[-] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago

It’s probably not an uncommon thing for us adult atheists to have been curious children and edgy teenagers.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Yeah but reminds me of 21 jump street (film). Asshole bullies will just use "why you hate my gay friend?" as the new excuse to pick a fight.

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