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Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Whatever it ends up being, I'm not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would've been better.

Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don't doubt Valve's technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it's technically the best turd in the world.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's unfortunate that it's not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it's not to your tastes doesn't mean it's a waste of their talent.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Oh absolutely. I'm not conceited enough to imagine Valve is developing games for me or that I'm entitled to anything. Just venting my personal disappointment with their choice. I still consider them the cream of the crop in game and hardware development.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm just curious why Valve looked at the oversaturated hero shooter market (seriously, we've had failures 8 years ago now) and said "Oh yeah, let's devote our resources there"

edit: Like, I seriously can't understand it. Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

Overwatch 2 didn't fall because it's a hero shooter

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is where you say "It failed because...."

My assertion was that it was an imperfect hero shooter among many hero shooters. The more competition, the harder it is to enter a game.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is where you say "It failed because...."

Gestures broadly

Not really my responsibility to make an argument for you. Of all the reasons Overwatch 2 might not have performed well, it being a Hero Shooter doesn't have any strong evidence and you didn't provide anything showing that was the reason.

One could argue Overwatch 2 being a Hero Shooter is why it didn't perform worse than it already has, given its problems.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago
  1. Blizzard is bad at balancing the game - could be true of any game, doesn't have to be a shooter

  2. Blizzard cancels promised mode - Blizzard being bad at design and following through on promises.

  3. See 1.

  4. Forcing a game to become the sequel, not making meaningful changes other than monetization

  5. See 1

  6. Blizzard made a bad game

None of these are a result of Overwatch 2 being a shooter, and all of them are a result of Blizzard being shit at making quality games, caring about players, and following through on promises. So thank you, you have done a fantastic job demonstrating that Overwatch 2 being a shooter is not the reason it didn't perform well.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Competitive online games have been Valve‘s focus for well over a decade so it‘s in line with their portfolio. If anything, Alyx was an outlier they only did because they have a headset to sell it with. I think they know what they‘re doing. Sucks for you to not be their target audience though because they are pretty good at making games.