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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

They're a part of the country, in that they are citizens and pay taxes. They don't have representation in Congress (they send delegates, but those people can't vote on anything) and they aren't represented in the electoral college.

Fun fact, citizens of Washington DC are similarly unrepresented in Congress, but they do get to vote for President.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like taxation without representation to me

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago

The DC liscense plate says just that.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago

Quick, throw that one a license plate.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I've never really understood why DC folks don't get a vote, but at least I knew about that one (it gets mentioned in movies and series from time to time)

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

DC is a small area entirelt under the ruling of the federal government, and because the government is made up of representatives from states they do not get a vote. The original idea was congress and the federal government shouldn’t be housed under any state laws.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

But I'd assume there's other folks in DC besides just congresscritters? It just feels weird that you disenfranchise (whew what a word to spell) people when they are state representatives or they happen to live in the place where the congresscritters do their thing.

I think in general disenfranchising people feels weird to me; I'm Finnish and I'm so used to the idea that literally everybody has a vote no matter what – here all citizens who are over 18 get a vote, whether in parliamentary, presidental, or municipal elections, and the only way to lose your right to vote is to renounce your citizenship. Doesn't matter whether you're an ax murderer or a member of parliament (hopefully not both at the same time though.)

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It didn’t matter when DC was 99% swamp, but it’s more of a problem now. My thinking is the people living in DC chose to live there, it’s a very rich area and anyone living in DC has the means to live outside. They knew they wouldn’t have a congressional vote. Also, DC still has municipal elections.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Oh dude. There's 87,000 people living in poverty in DC.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's plenty of poor people that live in DC. it's not all rich fucks

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah, if anything the rich fucks live across the border in Northern Virginia.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

They're not willing enough to riot.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

DC doesn't get its own separate representative because every congressperson has a vested interest in representing it (since they all live there half the time). The arrangement was specifically designed to avoid giving DC too much power.