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This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.

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[–] kzhe@lemmy.zip 67 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I have the opposite. I have never a reason to turn off Bluetooth, but always want to connect of disconnect devices. this is so much better than long pressing.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah they built this UI on the assumption that people didn't turn off their BT generally. This is an improvement for me but I really don't see why they can't make it an option for people.

[–] evo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not an assumption. They obviously have telemetry that shows the vast majority of people never turn Bluetooth or WiFi off.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

...or maybe the people who turn off Bluetooth also tend to disable/block telemetry.

[–] Kelly@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately I suppose thats the equivalent of refusing to vote.

[–] StarPupil@ttrpg.network 2 points 7 months ago

And that group is also an incredibly small outlier, and wouldn't be considered in their calculations.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ummm... this also happened for WiFi as far as I can tell...

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah I don't turn that off generally either but you're right the wifi panel has been like this for a bit and now it's consistent.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (5 children)

My wife's car is extremely aggressive. The second she turns it on, it steals my Bluetooth connection. I could be mowing my lawn, listening to music on my phone, then suddenly hear nothing, and it's because my wife got in her car and was suddenly blasted with my tunes.

I tell my phone to forget her car's Bluetooth connection, but then I'm constantly harassed by pop-ups on my phone every minute saying her car wants to pair with my phone. I can't get it to stop pinging me. It sees a Bluetooth device in range and then spams it, trying to connect.

So yes, I like to keep my Bluetooth off until I want to use it.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Tell the car to forget your phone?

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago

That's a temporary fix, because oop may drive that car at times as well. I have the exact same problem

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Have a dig through the cars Bluetooth settings and see if you can delete the pairing from that end.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I've done that, but it still pings every Bluetooth connection it sees, whether it recognizes it or not.

Her car had some class-action lawsuit recently because its integrated satellite radio service was constantly pinging for a connection, whether you had the service or not. If the car wasn't driven in a few days, the battery would be completely drained. And you couldn't jump it yourself; it had to be towed to a shop so they could use some special machine to jump and charge it.

That issue has been settled, but now its Bluetooth is basically doing the same thing. Fortunately only while the car is on, but still.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Sounds like you need to give it something to connect to. Buy a cheap analog-to Bluetooth transmitter, charge it from the car and just never turn it off. You'd need to do some research to find one which doesn't go to sleep. If you need to use your phone in the car, just turn the transmitter off.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

Hmm. Well that sucks.

Personally; I refuse to connect a phone to a car via Bluetooth. Too many reports of cars harvesting every available bit of info it can access from the connection and storing/uploading it inaccessible/immovable to the owner.

Aux cable, fm transmitter, or deal with the radio.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

It's a pain if you share a car. Whoever starts the car gets to interrupt the other one's phone call.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like your phone is top priority. Either clear it off the car or move her's up to the top spot.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Some cars it doesn't matter - it will attempt to connect to whatever device it sees.

If it happens to see his first, it connects.

I've seen these problems for years with integrated BT in cars. I hate it.

The best answer I've found is to pair, then turn off all connectivity within that Bluetooth connection on my phone.

[–] Elocomanzo@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does she have a mazda?? Mine does the same thing 😅

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nope, a Subaru. I drive a Mazda and I don't have this issue.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Our car does this as well, but then when I get in it sometimes just refuses to connect automatically, so this actually helps me immensly.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I turn it off daily. I have 2 phones and I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work. I can see where you're coming from though.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to connect my personal phone to my BT speaker at work

I'm confused, do you shuttle the same speaker between work and home or is work a separate speaker? If it's a separate speaker why don't you just delete it's pairing from your personal phone?

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I just leave it at work. I will do that lol. I forgot I could do that, thanks.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Supermarkets and malls etc, use Bluetooth beacons to track, and profile you. I'm always turning mine off, when in those kind of places.

[–] macattack@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I think this is the reason why Google implemented it. They already track you over Wi-Fi when you do not explicitly turn off the option, so Bluetooth is going the same route

[–] Norgur@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah. That's my use case as well. I rather liked this. Even if I want to turn off BT, this is just one small button more that's almost underneath the fingertip on my phone when you press the bt.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I was like you once until I got a speaker for the bathroom and now the wife and I fight over it...

If we both have BT on, the speaker will connect to the last phone which is almost always the wrong one... And then the yelling fest starts so the other turns it off