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[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like yeah I don't, but didn't he curse a fig tree for not having fruit, while it wasn't fig season?

Didn't he get himself executed for like being offended that people were doing business at the temple?

How is that not taking shit personally and arguing with strangers?

You don't think he'd be like coming in hot on a comment chain?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The cursing of the fig tree has echos in other Jewish literature best example is Moses hitting a rock to get it to send out water.

The temple had to do business. It wasn't practical for everyone to bring their own animals and the coinage issue wasn't considered a big deal. If there has been a historical Jesus (again there wasn't) he most likely started the assault on the temple because he was trying to fulfill the OT prophecy of its destruction. Kinda like when you want sex so you give your partner a back rub.

You got to understand all the accounts of man were written multiple decades later by liars.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what to do with this information.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I imagine they want you to be convinced and become a Christian.

[–] dang_rangatang@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't commit link dump articles you didn't read advocating for a viewpoint that is not supported by evidence.

Jesus didn't exist. No one can keep their story straight about events in his life. Everyone who spoke about his life was lying and we can identify the lines via basic textual criticism. Evidence of his existence that should be here is missing.

I am sorry your Messiah was just a grift by James and Cephus but it is better to hear it late than never. Happy Saturnalia maybe spend this evening trying to find the nativity scene in the Bible, and not building a hybrid one off Matthew and Luke.

[–] dang_rangatang@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh I'm not even Christian. All of the events in his life don't have to be corroborated for him to be a real person. You for example probably haven't had everything you've done recorded but you are certainly a person because there are contemporary accounts of your existence. Jesus from Nazareth didn't have to be proven to have risen from the dead to be a real man who existed.

Having a combative attitude isn't gonna make your point dude.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I am an ordinary person so any claims about my existence are ordinary. Even a minimum historical Jesus (I am sure you know that term without looking it up ;)) would be extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. The very first writer of the man described a celestial being, not a human, the second writer of the man recycled Elijiah.

Why don't you tell me which part of the claim you have evidence for? So far you have listed his name and village of birth. There were other Messiah figures named Jesus both from birth and as a title. Since it means saviour. As for Nazareth, historians can't find it. Josphius names ten towns right around it and doesn't mention it. After hundreds of archeological digs they found a barn, a barn that they can't even prove was standing 0 AD, only around that time period. Could easily have been built in 50AD.