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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phones are cheaper than a computer

Not at all. Mini PCs with way more power (cpu, ram, video, cooling) than a phone are as little as $100. That's about the used price of many 3 year old phones.

These pc's can run at higher performance levels, and far more continuously, than a phone can, since cooling on a phone is very limited.

[–] dorumon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My 200 dollar android smartphone breaks all my laptops in all the benchmarks I ran on it that cost so much more than it. Legitimately though, I guess it doesn't mean that much since there is very little I can compare it with. Minus saying "Oh look wow this web assembly thing runs faster on my smartphone than my cheap computers from eBay!". Or "Roblox can look and run so much better on my smartphone than on my computer and not run at 20 fps!" Or also "Look at this benchmarking tool it scores higher on my smartphone!" Or also also also "Look at me ma I'm running emulators and ruffle flash-player games faster in the web browser on my phone than on my computer that can't even run Run 3 at max settings!" Or also also "Look ma I can run Fallout New Vegas at higher settings and higher resolution and framerate than my new cheap 100 dollar mini PC or laptop from eBay!". Honestly though if you just gave me a real operating system with the terrible mid tier soc in my phone and shoved it into a laptop with a real operating system. I think I would like that a lot more than the 100 watts my biggest laptop draws from the outlet that can't even hardware encode video with an 8th Gen core i7 Intel with dedicated amd graphics. Like imagine the kind of power-draw a phone soc would have on a normal laptop battery all without paying up the ass for something that has the screen kill itself in 3 years thanks apple. Though but seriously minus the non upgradability of arm MacBooks and anti-repair nonsense; Apple seriously did wonders in taking their mobile silicon and expanding it into something really really great in the traditional computing world and making a unique series of chips separate from their mobile counterparts. X86 needs to finally die. Anything else should be looked for in the future. It is embarrassing that my shitty low end smartphone out performs all the computers at my local Walmart.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My 200 dollar android smartphone breaks all my laptops

The commenter was speaking about mini pc's, which are wildly different. They dont have heavy constraints on cooling and battery, as they are not meant to be portable.

My 200 dollar android smartphone breaks all my laptops in all the benchmarks I ran on it that cost so much more than it

You are paying for the 12 different cams, the whatever fancy touch screen, and other components, besides a lot of engineering afforts that the capacity fits into a very small device.

Also, I don't think it does any good to compare benchmark scores of a phone and a laptop, because as far as I know, the scoring is totally different. They aren't meant to compare your phone with your laptop and your desktop PC, but your phone with an other one, with certain common simplified workloads. Firstly because these operate with very different constraints: even worse cooling and battery capacity than that of a laptop, a CPU architecture that may be more efficient but still is considerably slower than x86 CPUs, and secondly because they were made for a wildly different use, and the benchmark measures how the phone performs for that usage. Most are just watching videos and social media, or playing games that need performance nowhere near that pc games need. If I would guess, and it would be possible to try it at all, I would doubt that phone could run the same Factorio factory with the same or better performance than your laptop (though that might be an ancient one, you didn't say anything about it), and Factorio is a computationally heavy game, especially (and sooner) when it is modded.

Then you started brining examples about games, and how they performed. Again, totally different hardware, and totally different software environment, games for the phones are not just cross-compiled version of the desktop games. Often they are simplified and have different kinds of optimization done. Your examples only tell me that you have a weak laptop. Yes, I also have a 15+ years old laptop to which compared my 7 years old $200 phone performs grands better, but that is not a real comparison, as technology have evolved a lot in that time. Neither one of them is even near to my 5 years old then-mid-range desktop, or the laptop I got a year ago for $200.

I still highly doubt that besides usability, phones are not worse also in performance than a decent desktop.