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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

As a Brit I will take this shit from anyone except Americans. Your chese is either sheets of plastic or comes in a can, you have no room to criticise any countries food.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

American cheese is one specific cheese made in America. It's essentially cheese made into a cheese sauce, then chilled back into a block. There's a number of quality levels of it based on how much they skimp on the cheese. And when eaten melted, it's actually pretty decent, if mild.

Most grocery stores in the US have two cheese sections. There's the cheap shredded/sliced cheeses, and then there's a separate section with the fancier cheeses, both foreign and domestic.

Cheese in the US is weird. We make both Velveeta and Humboldt fog. An American cheese won the World Cheese Awards a few years ago, but most of the cheese eaten in America is cheap, mild, mass produced, pre-sliced/shredded semisoft cheese. Most of it isn't "american cheese", though.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just like our beer. Yeah, budweiser is watery crap. There's also a new microbrew popping up every week.

Also, American cheese exists for one thing: melting over everything. It provides the creamyness. If you want flavor, mix in some aged chedder, which normally doesn't melt very well.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You can actually make your own American pretty easily with good cheddar, sodium citrate, and water. That's how I usually make Mac and cheese. A+ would recommend picking some sodium citrate up on Amazon.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some of the best cheese in the world is made in Wisconsin. There is plenty to criticize about American food but cheese seems like an odd target.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah some of the best chefs in the world are British. Its a joke response to a meme, not a serious point.

Also no one outside of America really cares about wisconsin cheese.

[–] theRealBassist@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You literally have burger cheese. It's the same shit.

The vast majority of people do not regularly eat Kraft singles just like the majority of brits don't eat burger cheese every day.

[–] Skipper_the_Eyechild@lemmings.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wtf. There's so much more to cheese than 'burger cheese', whatever the fuck that is.

[–] theRealBassist@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Burger cheese is a specific kind of cheese that is commonly used for things like burgers in the UK.

Very similar to kraft singles.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I bought a 20 year aged chedder from a local cheese maker this past year. It was wonderful.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You picked a cheese named after a place in the UK, not the best choice for a UK Vs USA argument

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And yet you can't get it aged 20 years over there.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmao you absolutely can, just there's not much point as both the reaction that creates the petides and the cheese crystal formation will be over long before even 5 years. So you won't see much difference or may even deteriorate over time.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What UK cheese maker does 20 years? Hook's is the only one I could find, and I pick that up at my local farmer's market.

There is certainly a difference between 5 and 7 years. I'll admit the difference between 7 and 20 is diminishing returns, but it's there.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's usually not the maker that ages them for so long but the mongers who will buy vintage cheddar and then continue to age it to sell for a premium, there's a couple of places in london I know that would sell at least decade aged cheddar, one on jermyn Street and another in knightsbridge. But I havnt been to either in a long time so idk if they still do it.