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[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

From the article it sounds like there were two people randomly shooting at a car. It's plausible that the other guy just gave him one if his guns.

[-] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 39 points 7 months ago

Either way and my point still stands. It's fucking insanity.

[-] MTLion3@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago

Well when Americans INSIST that rootin tootin point and shootin is the only way, then yeah - this shit is gonna keep happening. I’m all about better gun laws, but you’d think I’m growing devil horns when I talk about it

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I completely agree.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 13 points 7 months ago

Shouldn't it be a crime to give a loaded gun to someone who is mentally incompetent to stand trial?

[-] yenahmik@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Why is someone who is not mentally competent enough to stand trial allowed to return to society? He should have been under medical supervision, not wandering the streets.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

That costs money. If we spent money on medical needs, who would fund the war machine?

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

There are more guns than people in this country. Even if you banned their sale entirely there will still be plenty to go around.

[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago

For a time. But if you made it illegal to transfer a firearm by any means and set up a buy-back program where when gun owners died the government would claim the guns and provide fair compensation to the estate you could get rid of the guns without taking anyone's guns away. It would take decades, of course, but every day there would be few guns out there and, importantly, the young people that commit most gun violence would be the people with the hardest time getting and carrying one. You can't expect we'll solve a problem that took decades to metastasize overnight anyway.

So there are solutions. That's just one. We don't solve this problem not because we can't but because we don't have the will to.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I appreciate your optimism but standing here in red rural America I don’t think it will ever happen. There are an insane amount of guns here with more and more every day.

[-] csprance@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

You'd be surprised what people are willing to let go of when they see children in their community being murdered. Doesn't matter what political spectrum you're on. There are major gun safety advocates who used to be 2a Rambo's who lost children and realized how wrong they were. It's just not worth it.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 7 months ago

thats the problem with conservatives in the untied states though... their complete lack of empathy means they dont care to change until someone kills their kid

[-] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You’d be surprised what people are willing to let go of when they see children in their community being murdered.

LOL, let me tell you about a town in Connecticut called Newtown and how the events there changed absolutely nothing about US gun policies...

[-] csprance@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I'd urge you to actually look at the response. Look at the legacy section of the sandy hook shooting. It actually did change the laws in some places in other places it got worse.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 7 months ago

theres about 50% of us or more who also feel we should start sooner than later in solving for the gun issue... but now with trump banging his cult drum, and one of those drum beats is the '2nd amendment' were kinda fucked.

it would take a constitutional amendment, which we havent done in a long time... and with as useless as the 2 parties are right now, it wont happen.

[-] csprance@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Trump himself once said "take the guns first then figure it out." One of the only cool things he's said.

[-] scrape@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

More than %50. Gun ownership is %50 for only white males. It is only about %15 for the rest of the country. Only one demographic has a culture of violence.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Until there aren't.

There were more buildings with asbestos in the US than people. Then we fixed it.

[-] jimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When in US history was there ever more buildings than people, much less buildings with asbestos?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago

Yeah but the founding fathers just forgot to include the freedom to put asbestos in walls in the Constitution!

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Pursuit of happiness, obviously.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Can we really have happiness without asbestos? 🤔

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