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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just uninstalled this after seeing this thread. If you're on AT&T like I am the package name for Mobile Services Manager is com.dti.att and it has nothing to do with your actual mobile services. All it does is push and update bloatware. I also nuked every AT&T app that I could. I recommend everyone who has Android Studio do this to their phone its easy.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So it's AT&T that does this and not Samsung?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. On T Mobile I had to install their voicemail app before it stopped bugging me but no games.

Unbranded Samsung phones don't have that.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Genuine question here, where are people buying phones that have all of this crap installed on them?

I have only ever bought unlocked phones directly from the manufacturer (pixel, nexus) or from a retailer like best buy and I have never had any carrier crap like this and I started with the nexus one.

I just get the phone and either transfered the physical sim or transferred the sim digitally, at no point has a carrier ever had the ability or permission to install apps on my phone.

I guess maybe because I never saw the point in buying carrier locked phones and always viewed that as a weird arbitrary lockdown(like buying a car that you can only drive on certain highways), I just avoided this? Is that where the bloat ware comes in?

[–] eth0p@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I bought an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer and still didn't get the choice.

Inserting a SIM card wiped the phone and provisioned it, installing all sorts of carrier-provided apps with system-level permissions.

As far as I've found, there's a few possible solutions:

  • Unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM that doesn't automatically install carrier-provided apps. (Warning: This will blow the E-fuse on Samsung devices, disabling biometrics and other features provided by their proprietary HSM).

  • Manually disable the apps after they're forcibly installed for you. Install adb on a computer and use pm disable-user --user 0 the.app.package on every app you don't want. If your OEM ROM is particularly scummy, it might go out of its way to periodically re-enable some of them, though.

  • Find a SIM card for a carrier that doesn't install any apps, then insert that into a fresh phone and hope that the phone doesn't adopt the new carrier's apps (or wipe the phone) when you insert your actual SIM.

[–] pain_is_life_is_pain@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, inserting the SIM card WIPED the phone!? That's insane!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For me inserting a SIM of a particular carrier did not wipe the phone but did install their bloatware on reboot.

Though, using adb to manually remove (actually remove not disable) all that bloatware plus DT Ignite did the trick. I have even rebooted my device and the bloatware did not return.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When you buy them from mobile phone companies(T-Mobile, at&t,etc .)you get their bloat ware. This why I also get mine from the manufacturer. Fuck all that bloat ware and it's unlocked as well.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In US it is common to buy carrier subsidized phones, and those come with their bloatware

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, its the carriers. It was extremely easy to remove though as long as you have Android Studio downloaded.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was hard when they were the only model available at the time, but sure.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So wait. Like gamers waiting for sales