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submitted 8 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/news@beehaw.org

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Key thing is that the shortages in Gaza are a direct result of Hamas deciding to stockpile food, water, and fuel, and munitions in order to kill, rather than making sure everybody has enough.

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[-] livus@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@dumdum666 that's a hard disagree from me. I think you fundamentally misunderstand what ethics and morals are. Either you believe something or you don't.

If you come upon some people raping some kid in an alley that doesn't mean it's somehow okay for you stand there and just watch because "this is rape and quite frankly worse things were done in other rapes".

The argument "other people could have chosen to help and didn't, therefore it's fine for me to not help either" doesn't cut it.

If you, personally, think it's morally fine to starve civilians and children that's one thing - luckily many disagree which is why it's deemed a war crime.

But you should own your views on that. Don't try to argue that there's some special ☆magical place☆ where there's no such thing as right or wrong and ethics suddenly don't exist.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

If you come upon some people raping some kid in an alley that doesn't mean it's somehow okay for you stand there and just watch because "this is rape and quite frankly worse things were done in other rapes".

The argument "other people could have chosen to help and didn't, therefore it's fine for me to not help either" doesn't cut it.

All right, then take a plane to Egypt and start to personally deliver that aid, if you just can’t stand by as the moral and ethical pure person you are. No? Took your mouth too full? Maybe you are a Keyboard Warrior after all?

If you, personally, think it's morally fine to starve civilians and children that's one thing - luckily many disagree which is why it's deemed a war crime.

It is a war crime if it is actually done to starve the civilians, yes. And you love to throw around accusations, don’t you?

Why aren’t you fighting that the women and young children can flee - to Egypt or maybe even into Israel? That would actually be useful, don’t you think?

[-] livus@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

@dumdum666

All right, then take a plane to Egypt

If you think physically being in a situation is a prerequisite for caring about it, I don't know where this conversation can go. You seem to be veering into personal attacks.

None of this is a valid criticism of my point. I think it might be time for us to stop, since we are clearly talking past one another.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The guy accusing me of condoning war crimes is now not happy that I called him a Keyboard Warrior.

You are right in one thing: there is no sense in keeping up the „discussion“

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