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Samsung joins Google in RCS shaming Apple (www.theverge.com)
submitted 10 months ago by Salamendacious@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Samsung has released a new video in support of Google’s #GetTheMessage campaign which calls for Apple to adopt RCS or “Rich Communication Services,” the cross-platform protocol pitched as a successor to SMS that adopts many of the features found in modern messaging apps... like Apple’s own iMessage.

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 124 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Okay, Samsung is the party with some credibility here. It's a lot harder to hear Google whine about messaging standards when their churn in messaging has been hilarious and embarrassing.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 127 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I've lost track of all the messaging apps they had:

  • Hangouts
  • Chat
  • Gmail Chat
  • Google+
  • Voice

I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 99 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Allo

[–] meepmeep@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

begging they bring back whisperSHOUT from Allo to Google Messages :(

[–] cole@lemdro.id 3 points 10 months ago

that was awesome

[–] concrete_baby@sh.itjust.works 56 points 10 months ago

Google Talk

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 33 points 10 months ago

There's also Duo, which turned into Meet. it's basically Google Facetime.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Google Talk was the name before it became Gmail Chat

[–] Konman72@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hangouts was so close to perfect before they blew it all up.

Now I'm using a mix of Chat and Voice and it's terrible for everyone. Voice doesn't even support RCS from what I can tell, and all my messages with iPhone users are full of reactions. It's so annoying. I've had the same Google Voice number for over a decade, why is this so frustrating?

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Voice is soooo frustrating. It had so much promise! But they haven't added anything to it in what 5 years? Maybe longer

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

tbh I don't know that I would remind anyone at Google that Voice exists, I think that's just about the only thing that is keeping it alive.

[–] gears@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

They also killed YouTube DMs

[–] jormaig@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

Duo (videocalling app)

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Samsung has 0 credibility here because they just use Google messages and Google’s Jibe implementation of RCS.

If Google drops Jibe for something else, it means Samsung is as well.

RCS isn’t really a standard anymore either. Once Google put out their own proprietary Jibe implementation, everyone just adopted that instead of putting in the work to implement it themselves. All the carriers in the US use Jibe as their RCS backend, and Samsung moved to using Google Messages as their default messenger. And all RCS messages go through Google servers.

If Google decides to do something else and drop Jibe, like they have with every other messaging service they have had, that’s it for RCS.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Samsung's record on RCS isn't great. Their Samsung Messages app didn't work across networks for most of last year. Like RCS only worked on t-mobile, but only for t-mobile branded phones, and for some time they couldn't send to AT&T. Not sure if Google Messages was much better during that time period.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

they also removed messages from aosp i believe