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Sites do not know about remote communities by default. Someone on your local site need to search their whole group address (group@remotehost) to make it known.

The fediverse, despite appearances, is local-first. Lemmy requires legwork to work with remote sites.

Well, you see, the combination of mayonnaise and melted cheese creates a chemical chain reaction in my brain that makes me feel good.

Nah. They just believe it will make stock values increase (or that not doing thr AI thing will cause stock values to decrease).

Remember, a publically traded company produces shareholder value. How they do it doesn't matter.

Well, stop expressing that people shouldn't have to make choices about what they use, and maybe I'd give a shit what you say or do.

They're websites. You're arguing that people shouldn't use different websites. On the Internet. Which is kind of how the Internet's been going the last 15 years, and has turned out to be a total disaster.

The idea that the largest game in town should adopt the features of smaller players, rather than users exploring other options because there's a slight inconvenience to the user just seems, I don't know, incredibly entitled. It's also how smaller projects stay invisible and die, leading to a monoculture.

So no, you're not arguing that "we should have a monoculture!", you're just saying "people shouldn't have to make choices!" which... leads to monoculture. And overwhelmingly supports the status quo.

they would have to do the whole “which instance to join” dance, again.

Oh, this again.

Seriously, you're now arguing for a monoculture and centralization.

At that point, just go back to Reddit.

We can not just tell someone “what you want is on kbin, use that instead”, because there will be different use-cases that kbin does not fulfill.

So instead, it's "let's beg Lemmy to fulfill these use cases that it currently does not". Got it. Makes total sense, and is not internally incoherent at all.

Definitely not just arguing for a monoculture.

No, they're not. Forums and content aggregators are significantly different in terms of user experience and, frankly, project goals.

One of the biggest differences between Reddit and forums is focus. A web forum is focused on a topic, and has sub-topics. Content aggregators are flat, and focused on, well, content aggregation. They're a mix between link aggregators and blogs. The modern version of them also involves user created and maintained discussion groups, where forums have set sub-topics and generally have site-wide moderation.

And modern forums, FWIW, have threaded comment chains.

Reddit and Reddit-like services are really quite shit at being forums. There's very little about the user experience that they have in common.

Remember when forums would be super active with, like, 500 users?

"Millions of users" is a vanity stat. The critical mass needed to keep a discussion group alive is actually quite small -- assuming you're interested in, you know, discussing things. So, how active "Lemmy" is is entirely dependent on which topics you're interested in.

Forums seem like the most natural use case for ActivityPub. I'm over the Reddit style UX, and absolutely ready to take a step back and try to pick an older jumping off point.

The thing is, mbin is right there if you want that kimd of functionality. There isn't really a reason why everything needs to evolve into omni-applications. It's better to have a broad ecosystem that has something for everyone, rather than a monopoly that's servibg everyone a compromise.

Just look at the Twitter mugrations in 2022, and the clammor for quote posts. Misskey was right there, giving them exactly what they wanted, but you couldn't speak the name of anything that wasn't "mastodon" because everyone is brand focused and context blind.

What OP wants exists. It's right there. It's just not named Lemmy.

Doing this didn't make people check their behaviour online, it just showed them that they can be bigger assholes IRL and get away with it.