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[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.dbzer0.com 160 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Crazy how much shit dropped on LTT simply from a gamer nexus video. It’s beautiful

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean that shit was steamy. And Steve was so pissed, for a dude whose usually pretty chill, it really said a lot about the gravity of his accusations.

[–] BlinkAndItsGone@lemm.ee 95 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every once in a while Steve gets visibly upset about corporate misbehavior, but I've been watching GN for a few years, and the news segment where he was replying to Linus's dismissive forum post is the angriest I've ever seen him.

[–] ji88aja88a@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

You mean, he had expression in his voice?! 😂 lol.. I like Steve

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And all this because LMG started the war by calling them shit. You get what's coming to you eventually, I guess.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Glass houses

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's like Harvey Weinstein, people in the industry knew he was a slimy piece of shit for years but he wielded too much power and speaking out was the death of your career. So few did.

Once it was out in the public press, the floodgates of people coming forward with similar stories opened up.

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[–] Naemonogatari@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imo none of this is even remotely news to me, one of LTTs most popular videos is that "I've never been this angry at someone and fired them before" where he had taken some new guy to go to his house and install a bunch of writing and stuff, totally outside any and all expectations of his job, and he'd done a not so stellar job, and it's like, what did you expect? He's not an electrician, he was like some sort of video editor or something? And you're the fucking CEO? How do you think the guy felt? Oh right, you don't give a single fuck. I don't know man, that's giving of some small business owner psychopath vibes.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that one hit me weird also. Like there's videos of him doing installs and stuff at other employees houses, so maybe that's just a culture thing, but it's still weird. Like can you imagine one of the late-night folks making a joke about how the cue card guy screwed up installing his dishwasher, but not meaning it as a joke? Like you don't screw with peoples livelihood.

Like if you had a glass instsall company, and some of your employees did a sloppy job on your personal shower door, you might have a talk with them, implement an improvement plan, etc because it affects clients experiences. What you wouldn't do is put them on blast for views. And that's only because it's relevant to their actual work. Last I checked LTT doesn't offer install services.

[–] James@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I saw this coming at least 5 years ago.

It’s the way Linus talks and acts, how their whole business revolves around a parasocial relationship with the viewers.

He actually became what he hated about NCIX so much.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably not Forbes headline Linus would have wanted.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To quote a couple of 20th century philosophers: Mick and Keith.

You can't always get what you want

But if you try sometimes well you might find

You get what you need

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah. I don't know if this will produce change, but saying what they're saying is the best first step. I'm sure we'll all be watching for follow through.

Incidently, it's a good thing that Linus Sebastian recently handed over the role of chief executive to an experienced manager. I think it would have been very bad for Linus and the company for someone who has acknowledged being ill suited to running a company to try to handle this.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Going from personal experience working in companies with techbros in charge you cannot fix the culture without removing all management and starting again from scratch.

The fact this happened for so long with LTT I doubt it can be turned around.

It doesn't matter if LS is no longer CEO. The culture he allowed to develop and did nothing to change lands the blame squarely at his feet. As long as he remains there it does not matter what his title is. The company will stay the same.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't matter. Ownership hasn't changed.. CEOs are still beholden with the board and he has a controlling share. Nobody is dumb enough to pay actual money for a debt laden company that trades on the old owners name.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Having read the article, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a worse job handling the situation.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Needs more click bait.

Title: I did a bad

Description: just plugs for all his channels and sponsor and merch store. Fuck describing the video

Thumbnail: Linus soy face wide open with red arrow pointing to a 💩 emoji. There is a red circle around it.

[–] discodoubloon@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude probably didn’t want a Forbes headline at all. I don’t think his personality holds up well to basic scrutiny for the public at large. If my dad for instance asks me about him he’s already lost.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it’s sad. All of it. Linus projected an image of a friendly geek when the channel was smaller. The first cracks I saw in that image appeared after covid in which I assume the channel (just as the rest of youtube) grew extremely.

Since then I noticed „slip ups“ where he went edgy and kind of lost part of his friendliness. I assumed it was because he was overwhelmed with his job as ceo since that job takes a heavy toll. I know from experience.

But the fact that he (and his wife and the new ceo) didn’t do anything against the obvious transgressions that were carried out under his watch (against this vendor as well as former employees, some of which have posted on youtube) is his (their) responsibility.

It’s just sad to see them making the same mistakes (being careless in the wrong department) as others before them.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

For me it was visit to Louis Rossman https://youtube.com/watch?v=Shn7LdIrViQ

Truth is, I didn't know of Linus than, was only fan of Louis, but the way Linus was acting throughout that video was just unpleasant for me. I wouldn't wanna be in Louis' shoes than.

Second was recently in that Linux challenge where, I was convinced, he was working hard to find that bug and show to everyone how bas he is. His complaint of Linux was that it allowed him to delete software Linux told him not to delete. Yeah... cool.

[–] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, the first one is familiar. I was kind of ok with it at the time but linus‘ condescending demeanor was kind of already obvious. I wrote it off at the time since I‘m autistic and also often get told I come across condescending. There you see why people need labels… we wouldn’t take it as personal if he was openly autistic (which I believe he is).

I didnt see the linux challenge but I saw when he wanted to change his gaming pc. Was it that? I would love if was more positive towards open source and stuff. But he‘s on the other side of the fence I suppose.

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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm quite amazed that the majority of people here simply take Madison's allegations seriously and don't pull the usual misogynistic bullshit.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reaction on Reddit and Lemmy is similar, so their point still stands.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that's unusual then... I suspect they're on the LTT forum

[–] Spellinbee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, the Ltt Forum has a lot of really bad takes. There are a bunch of people who do seem to be reasonable, but I did see some really brain dead things when I checked it out.

[–] EuphoricPenguin22@normalcity.life 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The good ol' Linus parrots. Squawk "Steve Burke is a bad journalist because he pointed out errors publicly that affected consumers." Screech "Linus didn't sell the employees internally on the idea that he and his wife were a substitute for HR, he auctioned it."

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[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

There is still plenty of the misogynistic bullshit.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So really, it's not just me that found him to be producing smarmy and careless content? My first views were of his various challenges - where they consistently 'proved' that people can't do things in an OS that they don't have experience with, which means they'd be better off doing it in a much worse OS that they used since they were kids - and therefore it's better.

I really liked Nexus's video - though it didn't help me as I wouldn't waste time on LTT. I don't like or trust these coroporate video mills, any more than I trust Google/Youtube - they don't give a toss as long as the money flows and they didn't get sued.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 year ago

So the careless content didnt really matter much - so long that they were still a tech entertainment youtube channel. But with the advent of LTT Labs, theyre trying to push themselves into a more reputable tech reviewer space and thats where the problems arise.

[–] 601error@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Recently asked my coworkers. Turns out we all dislike Linus Sebastian and his content.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out we all dislike Linus Sebastian

I read that as "Turns out we all dislike Little Sebastian" and thought "Oh shit, don't let Ron Swanson hear you say that!"

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[–] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Everyone you like will disappoint you someday. Fuck you Linus.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I just hope Louis Rossman doesn't snap.

Please don't Louis 🥺

Guy basically just puts out anger content now. He's a real hero who's fighting an important fight but he's just inundated with bullshit and seems is stuck seeing everything through shit colored glasses lately.

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[–] Hector_McG@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not everyone be any means, but if you admire narcissistic extroverts then sure, you’re always going to be disappointed.

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I think that's usually the type of person who puts themselves out there in the public's eye to be consumed though

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