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A Taliban official says women lose value if their faces are visible to men in public, and that the only way to wear the hijab, or the Islamic headscarf, is if the face is hidden

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[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Taliban is what happens when you let incels govern

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The Taliban is what happens when the US government funds and arms a right wing religious militia

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's not accurate to conflate the Mujahideen and the Taliban. In fact, the Taliban is in open conflict with a lot of former Mujahideen.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taliban really do view women as property, not human.

[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most religious zealots are the same...

[–] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

They said religious zealots already…

[–] Decimit@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

Cunts like this lose value every time they talk.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Are we talking a per pore basis or more like a per square inch of skin thing? Does this mean women with larger faces are more valuable so long as a higher proportion of face is covered vs uncovered? I'm just trying to understand their obviously completely logical and rational point of view here.

[–] o0joshua0o@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good point. The last thing you want is a woman whose face has been used up by being looked at a bunch of times.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If another man jacks of thinking about your wife, the sex with her is slightly less satisfying. /s

Fuck these small-minded fucks.

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[–] match@pawb.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

women should have power, not value

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ok for people to have value, but that value shouldn't only be their appearance. And men have value too. This guy has negative value to the world.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Depends what you mean by value... the Taliban isn't talking about personal virtue, they're talking about women as products.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Every single one of these Taliban men was birthed by a woman, nursed by one, and mostly raised by one.

Women, if you raise your son's to be Muslim they will treat your daughter's like this. Tell them that there is no Allah, tell them that Abdul and Mohammad were wicked, tell them that the Imam is a shaman. Tell them the truth before it's too late.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, not all Muslims treat their daughters like this. Too many do, yes, but not all. Look at Indonesia, for example, or many Western countries which have Muslim populations. It's partly religion, partly culture.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes it is possible to be a moral person and a god fearing one, it is just harder. To the extent that they are NOT following their religion they should be praised. The gotcha works the other way better.

Plus you can still teach your kids the truth.

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[–] AlternActive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi know good muslim people, so it's not just that.

That said, plenty of issues come down to religion in general, with a few exceptions here and there.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It is amazing to me how different the views are. One on side you got Westerner apologists whose knowledge of Islam is what they half remember from a video they saw on YouTube ten years ago on the other hand you have the Taliban. Both sides claim to know what real Islam is about. Well sorry not sorry I am going to believe the people who live with the Koran vs you.

You know good Muslims? I do as well. Does that make the tenents of Islam good? I don't think so. Does that make them true? Nope. All you can really say is that you know people who aren't following their own religion and as a result they are good people.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago

Correct, and the same for Christianity. The doctrines are really quite similar in their treatment of minorities. The only difference in that respect is that one doctrine says to just kill them, and the other says to exile and shun them (but stoning for some), or torment them mentally and emotionally until they abandon their beliefs and conform to the doctrine of the church.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The tenets of Islam are pretty good tho - pray a lot every day, give money to the poor, do a pilgrimage - it's the historic and contemporary leadership, culture, violence, and precedence that are bad

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Praying is talking to yourself because there is no god to hear it.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, but meditation is good

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It has some medical benefits yes. As does a small walk around the block.

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[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Praying isn't Meditating, it's Praying.

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Any religion is cancer. Period.

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[–] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, they subscribe to the Andrew Tate philosophy.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, this isn’t that far off

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[–] Water1053@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

"I kinda like mysterious women."

"I totally agree! They totally lose value if other people can see their face in public."

"Wait what? No, not like that..."

I'd say the 7th century wants its values back but on the other hand, no, it probably doesn't.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

When you’re a worthless, ignorant, fundamentalist, once dickhead- you’ll say anything to make it look like you have any kind of value at all. If hell was real, these guys would fucking rot there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much value is a nose? Just a nose? Like in USD.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

No idea in USD, but it must be at least half a goat, maybe even a whole one.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If I see this guy, I see this is more appropriate with men than women...

Women depreciation is worse than on Italian sports cars :-(

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds like if they would get less cows for them when selling them on a market, after their face was revealed.

[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welcome to islam. Maybe start teaching science and logic rather than religion and you'll have less nut bags.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They used to. Then the zealots took over. Shame really.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

If they have any books left that is. They probably used them to warm themselves during winter.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When it comes to losing worth for showing ones face, the guy in the picture should be the first to wear a sack over his head. With most of his taliban cronies following suit.

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