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tl;dr

Tachiyomi will no longer be actively developed. It may continue to work for you for the foreseeable future but there will be no support for it nor the official extensions.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 112 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

This is how FOSS dies.

Where the living fuck are the EFF's team of lawyers?

I know they generally focus on US cases, but god damn, you'd think the egregiousness of this would get their asses involved.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 68 points 6 months ago

I mean the eff can only do so much to defend people who didn't even fucking bother in the slightest to defend themselves and just rolled over at every turn

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Was the case issued in Japan? From what I've read the legal system there is famously one sided, criminal cases have a 99.8% conviction rate.

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Kakao is Korean, but no cases have been issued yet right? Only threats

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes but thats enough for people with no money...

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[–] kikuri@ani.social 89 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hopefully their personal information won't be found out by those lawyers, or they could also be threatened into stopping development. It's sad to see how companies are bullying volunteers into stopping legal projects.

Edit: SLAPP suits are similar to this, where companies file lawsuits while knowing they'd lose, if the defendent had the time, money and stress tolerance to win the lawsuit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There are already a lot of other forks no?

[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I created one just for the hell of it. Call me Spartacus.

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just had to look.

3.2k forks
[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

3.19k of those are inactive.

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[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 88 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While many will be understandably angry or disappointed in our lack of backbone or perceived selfishness

I'm angry and disappointed, but it is not because awesome people stop dedicating their free time to provide a free product, it's because some money hungry corporation decided to bully less powerful individuals who didn't even do anything wrong.

And it's not the first time that this company did fucked up stuff...

🖕

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe one of the forks will take off

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 months ago

Likely. If not, there's always Dantotsu.

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Their reasoning is sound. They don't want to defend against a corporation for a hobbyist project. There's already going to be a fork so that's good I guess. I just hope jay forks it for a J2K version.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 months ago

The Streisand effect of this all is great. I can't be the only one that found out about this app (and the repos) because of the stupid law suit right? Amazing that they went after the container instead of the contents.

Can't wait for Glad or Rubbermaid to be C&D'd when the cops find contraband in one of their bags/bins.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There's already dozens of forks. There was before all of this even started. Sad to see it go, but the app itself and how it functions will pretty well certainly go on. Tachiyomi isn't even an app that needs routine updates, it's the extensions that do. So existing setups will probably work indefinitely so long as extensions continue getting updates...

So, sounds very "oh fuck" but for end users probably means literally nothing changes. Unless something breaks the functionality of the app, which really just means the reader and library and everything, it doesn't need active maintenance. Bugs might crop up occasionally, but everything looks fine as of now.

[–] EstrangedMoistness@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

For now, this is true. But those forks get updates from Tachiyomi (changes in Android / security fixes / feature updates / bug fixes) so they need a new base.

It seems important to follow the Mihon rebrand. Some forks, SY and AZ, announced they will rebase off Mihon (it's in the #faq of the Mihon discord server https://discord.gg/mihon)

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This is a big part of why I dislike consolidating downloading and viewing.

I've been using PerfectViewer on a tablet for viewing for ages. I'm sure there's a better one and would be game for recommendations, but I am very used to this app and its quirks.

There exist any number of ways to download and sync the chapters to my device. I currently mostly use the mangadex-dl script and a syncthings folder and it's no trouble. And all my read chapters I can just move into an archive drive where I'll have them if anything ever happens.

This is standard practice with media. You use something like MPV for viewing and the downloading is handled elsewhere.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

i either download shit locally, or stream from a server I run. (maybe a little spotify, since it's not known to take half your library "because licensing")

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hate capitalism I hate capitalism

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

R.I.P tachiyomi, I have used it for years. Kind of sad to see it go. Are the forks also abandoning development ? I have been using the TachiJ2k fork for the past 3 years or so.

I guess I will be shifting to kotatsu soon.

[–] ppfdee@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TachiyomiSY will still be actively developed. No idea about J2K but I read somewhere that the dev will implement third party repo support sometime next week so I guess that's a sign.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

SY devs have announced to develop a new app that won't be just a tachiyomi fork.

@everyone Update we now have a name.Mihon (見本), Logo is being made by the same guy who made Tachiyomi'sContext: Coming to terms with the practice of 'tachiyomi' but not wanting to have all of their books flipped through, bookstores started designing books and magazines labeled ‘Mihon’ (ie. samples) for people who engage in ‘tachiyomi’.

[–] ppfdee@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah Mihon is the successor to Tachyomi but TachyomiSY's dev also clarified that he'll still be working on SY as its own thing.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I don't know why they want to continue working on two different things when one clearly tries to be a successor.

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I use SY and I get the sense that Bobby is more of a fast and loose type while the Mihon dev is focused more on polish. My assumptions are based on the unpolished nature of SY features and the Mihon dev saying "some of us liked plain Tachiyomi" [sic].

[–] spiderman@ani.social 3 points 6 months ago

I just downloaded TachiyomiSY before a week and I liked how it was better than TachiyomiSY in feature wise. I think Bobby is a dev who focuses more on features aspect. So if the other dev focuses on user interface, I hope it might be a good pair.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What even is Tachiyomi?

Edit: manga reading app, it also lets you follow sources and tells you when new episodes are published.

Perhaps one of the forks will take over.

[–] Flynn_Mandrake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago

RIP Tachiyomi, time to try out Kotatsu

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 16 points 6 months ago

Here's to hoping j2k stays actively developed. Unlikely, as j2 himself already had pretty low drive for it already. (。╯︵╰。)

[–] victron@programming.dev 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 29 points 6 months ago

Because even though it's obviously perfect legal, getting harassed by corporations over a hobby project is a pain in the ass.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

why?

due to recent events involving Kakao Entertainment Corp's threats to both myself and others that have been involved with the project.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 11 points 6 months ago

Greedy, this is literally

You buy digital items but you don't own them

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Well, fuck.

[–] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is obviously sad and frustrating, but

P.P.S. I think someone on Reddit owes someone else $100 now.

Where can I find this juicey reference?

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It kind of looks like his point was the dozens of forks and that even if the devs get harassed into stopping, there are alternatives sources for the same app.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

how wll this affect aniyomi?

[–] spiderman@ani.social 4 points 6 months ago

in no way if the dev can still work on aniyomi

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