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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I feel the internet is kinda going overboard with the opposite. Not every ancient relationship between 2 men was sexual and even if it was, bisexualism is a thing too. Say no to bi-erasure.

Iliad literally starts with Achilles arguing with Agamemnon over female slaves(Chryseis and Briseis) and who gets to keep who. And it was because of this, that Achilles refused to participate in the fighting from then on(also because he was OP as fuck and the game devs needed a reason to keep him on the sidelines, kinda like Superman dying in the Justice League).

And it wasnt till Patroclus(Achilles' friend/boyfriend) took Achilles' armor in order to help the losing greeks(raise morale thinking Achilles was fighting again) and then died to Hector, that Achilles went on his angry superman killing spree. Here is a rare video of Achilles after Hector killed Patroclus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpVnot2y-hk

Also ancient greeks wrote about their potentially sexual relationship but ultimately, this whole story was a myth. This was "ancient history" for the ancient greeks of classical Greece, something that happened almost 1000 years ago. And there was a "dark era" in between Mycenaean Greece(Iliad) and Classical Greece(Athens and Sparta bullshit), that we dont know much about.

History, as we know it(ie the writing down of actual historical facts) only became a thing during Classical Greece. Herodotus, the "father of history", sometimes was accused by his contemporaries of embellishing his stories, "content brain" was a thing even then.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

Thanks, I was trying to remember the subreddit for this

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ironically they go quite quickly to “he’s gay” when it comes to guys

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, just maybe, historians aren't a hivemind with the same opinions.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I think it's trends we're talking about. Thinking everyone was straight and the overcorrection to that. Nobody is suggesting they're all doing this.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

If she was lesbian, she would have married a woman instead of staying unmarried. Checkmate atheist

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago

"They were roommates"

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 6 points 9 months ago

There is…

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 3 points 9 months ago

I mean. Do are you not friends with your lover?