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[–] rah@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow, 40% are happy with the UK staying outside the EU. That's a lot of people, especially given the continuous stream of newspaper articles crying how terrible and disasterous brexit has allegedly been.

[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because rejoining now means it'll be on very different terms. Luxuries like keeping the Pound would go away

[–] knatsch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While the UK had a bunch of luxuries, keeping the pound wasn't one of them. Eurozone != EU

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Every EU member is obliged to join the eurozone. The EU members who have not yet done so are still to meet the convergence criteria, with the only exception being Denmark who obtained a special exemption (along with the UK) during the negotiation of the original Maastricht treaty.

On the flipside, although Sweden is technically obliged to join the eurozone eventually, it has avoided doing so by intentionally not fulfilling the convergence criteria (by not joining ERM2). Most political parties in Sweden acknowledge it would be in everyone's best interest to join but a national referendum rejected the euro in 2003. The EU seems content to let them do whatever for the time being, so maybe the UK could chart a similar course if it were to rejoin, hypothetically.

Honestly, an overwhelming percentage of that 40% are likely old racist people.

[–] rich@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I know many people, in the older generation, who would still vote for Brexit.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forget not everyone bothers with the news.

[–] doctorfinlay@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, reading facts gets in the way of good old fashioned jingoism!

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thing is, not all facts are true. And once you think you're being lied to, there's little chance of being convinced otherwise.

[–] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not all facts are true

wat

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Something someone claims as a fact could actually be a lie. Eg, "72% of statements people make on the internet are false" is false, but sounds like a fact to those unaware.

[–] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Alternative facts!

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is, not all facts are true.

That seems to be contrary to the standard definition of "fact". Perhaps you meant to say:

People aren't always right when they state something as fact.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Okay, to be pedantic, "not all things presented as fact are true"

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Well that sure changes the message of your first comment..

[–] Rakust@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Still can't believe we voted to leave. Madness.

[–] Styxie@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be 90% in favour of rejoining, but it wouldn't make much of a difference. The EU would need to see strong, long term cross-party support in Westminster before they'd consider it. The EU know that otherwise the issue is just going to keep re-emerging in UK politics so long as the Tories are ideologically opposed to the EU. I think the best chance the UK has is if the modern Tory party stopped being relevant electorally, because their membership's views aren't likely to change, and everyone in the EU institutions hates them for the damage their governments have done over the last 7 years.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I also would be really surprised if the EU would offer the same favourable terms the UK had before. Most likely they would need to show their willingness to integrate more in the union than they did before.

  • They might not be willing to rejoin as equals though.

  • If the trashy newspapers start doing their thing again, they’ll reduce that percentage successfully.