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[โ€“] rah@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow, 40% are happy with the UK staying outside the EU. That's a lot of people, especially given the continuous stream of newspaper articles crying how terrible and disasterous brexit has allegedly been.

[โ€“] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because rejoining now means it'll be on very different terms. Luxuries like keeping the Pound would go away

[โ€“] knatsch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While the UK had a bunch of luxuries, keeping the pound wasn't one of them. Eurozone != EU

[โ€“] sushibowl@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Every EU member is obliged to join the eurozone. The EU members who have not yet done so are still to meet the convergence criteria, with the only exception being Denmark who obtained a special exemption (along with the UK) during the negotiation of the original Maastricht treaty.

On the flipside, although Sweden is technically obliged to join the eurozone eventually, it has avoided doing so by intentionally not fulfilling the convergence criteria (by not joining ERM2). Most political parties in Sweden acknowledge it would be in everyone's best interest to join but a national referendum rejected the euro in 2003. The EU seems content to let them do whatever for the time being, so maybe the UK could chart a similar course if it were to rejoin, hypothetically.

Honestly, an overwhelming percentage of that 40% are likely old racist people.

[โ€“] rich@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I know many people, in the older generation, who would still vote for Brexit.

[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forget not everyone bothers with the news.

[โ€“] doctorfinlay@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, reading facts gets in the way of good old fashioned jingoism!

[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thing is, not all facts are true. And once you think you're being lied to, there's little chance of being convinced otherwise.

[โ€“] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Something someone claims as a fact could actually be a lie. Eg, "72% of statements people make on the internet are false" is false, but sounds like a fact to those unaware.

[โ€“] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Alternative facts!

[โ€“] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is, not all facts are true.

That seems to be contrary to the standard definition of "fact". Perhaps you meant to say:

People aren't always right when they state something as fact.

[โ€“] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

Okay, to be pedantic, "not all things presented as fact are true"

Well that sure changes the message of your first comment..