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i've never been on this site before -- that is to say, you don't even get like a couple free words

what a joke

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 108 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hi! With the OED, it has been like that at least since I started university in 2007. However, lots of public libraries have subscriptions. I just go to my library website, login, and follow the link to the OED. There are many other reference tools that are also included in my library card. Libraries rule!

Edit: you can check merriam-webster for free, I think

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Instructions crystal clear, researching etymology of 500-year-old words 😍

Thanks San Francisco Public Library!

[–] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago

2005 Yes I'm getting a crystal clear picture on this new video phone

Press X to doubt.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 82 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You can still buy the book or access the site via most libraries.

I get that it's a bit annoying, but I'm guessing you'd also be annoyed about an ad-ridden, data-harvesting dictionary.

The Oxford English Dictionary is without a doubt the most well-researched, comprehensive, and linguistically complete English dictionary on Earth, bar none. Nothing even comes close to its depth and scope.

It perhaps is the most well-researched and comprehensive dictionary of all languages, but I wouldn't know.

It's laid out in an unusual way and even has words and alternate meanings that haven't been used for centuries. It's not meant to be a general-purpose dictionary, it's niche and predominantly for linguistic experts or people fascinated by language.

An unbelievable amount of research goes into it, and those people deserve to be paid.

There are dozens of freely-available general-purpose dictionaries out there if you want them.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was annoyed, like the OP, then I read your comment and now I'm impressed and have an urge to buy a copy of OED I most certainly will never open. They owe you a commission on my sale.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

A copy will literally fill a shelf. It comes in volumes with addenda releases periodically.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think you can buy the book. It was 20 volumes in 1989, and they've been working on an ongoing update since then. There's no plans to physically print a third edition.

But yeah, it's a serious scholarly resource, and they do put out free small dictionaries as well.

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You are right, it's wayyy too large to fit in one book, I misspoke when I said book

I had no idea they don't want to make physical copies anymore, though, part of me is sad about that, although I can certainly appreciate why they'd go in that direction.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 65 points 7 months ago (1 children)

what a joke

In the past, you had to buy the book. Or go to the library to read it.
Both of which you can still do. And with a library membership you can access the web version as well.

How else do you expect the authors of the dictionary to pay their rent?

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

With ads! Wait, I also dislike those... They should figure it out for themselves!

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

They did, they put up a paywall πŸ™‚

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The OED has never been free. Go buy a copy and you'll know why.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In spite of the undeniable truth that the Oxford English Dictionary is a magnificent and exhaustive source of information on the etymology and meaning of the English language, it is my personal inclination to favor their compendium of synonyms and antonyms, which I prefer to other possibilities for their rich collection of words with similar or opposite meanings.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I use Power Thesaurus lol

[–] swayevenly@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I bought a copy and I'm still wondering why.

[–] vormadikter@startrek.website 5 points 7 months ago

Then maybe open it and read a bit?

[–] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're after an online dictionary, I personally like Wiktionary.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Yep, only copyleft services (of which Wiktionary is one) can be trusted not to be paywalled or otherwise subverted in the long run.

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 24 points 7 months ago

Here's the word, if you were wondering:

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Wasn’t it always a subscription? You really would only have easy access in a university library.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

It’s an extensively researched and informative book, much more so than other dictionaries. That information gathering process has to be paid for somehow.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Cambridge dictionary is free.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

'$searchTerm def' on any search engine

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

And use the OED (Online Etymology Dictionary) for any etymological related queries.

[–] current@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is why you should instead use Wiktionary and donate your child's entire college fund to the Wikimedia foundation

[–] beatensoup@baraza.africa 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Here is an alternative that aggregates from multiple sources: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/

While I do not oppose paying for definitions, there is someone confusing about collectively generated meaning being aggregated and packaged by one company for profit. A publicly maintained dictionary is a much much better alternative. I guarantee it would be more versatile and rigorous than this Oxford stuff.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

one company

It’s a good thing there are lots of other dictionaries than the OED then.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of other dictionaries and some of them are made of something called paper.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] IDriveWhileTired@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

That’s the stuff Bill Buttlicker was trying to buy from that rude salesperson.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I personally use collins english dictionary. It's the best online dictionary I've found (best descriptions).

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

thats not bad actually. joey tribbiani had to pay $50 and he only got the v words

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

I think Cambridge dictionary is free.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I just paid a one off fee for the Chambers app. It's just as comprehensive

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

$29.95 a month? ok. The $100 a year is… better I guess.

Surprised Wikipedia hasn’t put something like this is place yet. Maybe their end-year donations push brings in enough to hold it off.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The OED is like 150 years old with literally thousands of people scouring every possible source of English for any possible permutation of every word ever. It’s a reference for specialists, not public consumption.

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[–] Kallioapina@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

FYI Running Ublock Origin is enough to grant access to this dictionary, among others. At least seems to work for me without any paywalls (unless its a geoblock? I'm looking at it from the Nordics).

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

The unabridged OED has never been cheap to buy. I'm honestly surprised it took this long.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

One way to get access to ~~OED~~ ODE without paying a cent is by using kindle app. When you highlight an English word, if will open the dict. You can search for any word from there.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

It works OK for me, but I'm in the UK so maybe it's subscription only for foreigners.

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