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Toyota-owned automaker halts Japan production after admitting it tampered with safety tests for 30 years | CNN Business::Daihatsu, the Japanese automaker owned by Toyota, has halted production after admitting it falsified data in safety tests for its vehicles for 30 years.

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[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 151 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Odd that they put "Toyota-owned automaker" in the headline instead of Daihatsu. Or something like, :"Daihatsu, owned by Toyota".

Whether the problems go "up the chain" to the parent company is TBD, I guess.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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[–] thoughts3rased@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

Well you'd have to have gotten a lobotomy to want to buy beats in the first place.

[–] cowpowered@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a pretty good reasoning for this in the article:

"an independent third-party committee had found evidence of tampering with safety tests on as many as 64 vehicle models, including those sold under the Toyota brand."

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

And, presumably other brands that come from Daihatsu plants. Assuming the safety issues are only within Daihatsu facilities, that's the key information. "Daihatsu, a Toyota subsidiary" or similar conveys the useful information. "Toyota-owned automaker" does not.

As it stands, it sounds like CNN is trying to vaugely imply that the problem applies to Toyota generally, which obvs will get a lot of clicks from people who own Toyotas. That's sloppy clickbait.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

WHY CAN WE NOT GET RESPONSIBLE HEADLINES ANY MORE??!

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TIL Daihatsu is still around. They stopped selling cars in my country about 30 years ago.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Daihatsu basically sells rebranded Toyota cars with cheaper price, but with smaller engines, lower trim level, etc. They also sells cheap commercial vehicles such as small pickups.

[–] rubikcuber@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And with worse safety, it would appear.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Very bad press for Toyota. Hopefully they will take the necessary steps to fix this.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Indeed, even worse consideeing just last week they recalled a ton of vehicles because of faulty airbags, and a month ago issued another recall for 12V batteries catching fire

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There's always recalls going on, so it's not indicative of anything when they happen.

I've had 3 newer cars from 3 brands in 3 countries, and all 3 had a recall of some kind. In each case they just bring it in and fix it...

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

I'd much prefer a manufacturer that issues recalls over over one with a perfect track record. No one is perfect. At least one of them is acknowledging and fixing their mistakes.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's when they don't do the recalls like Chrysler with their Pacifica minivans. That van has so many problems and the customer ends up paying for the repair. The harness corrosion behind the bumper, The grille shutter, hybrid coolant pump, electric ac expansion valves and I just had one with a crank position sensor code with the hybrid charging system making an awful racket with 9000 miles. Most of the problems I listed are usually under 30k miles. I didn't even get into their other vehicles. There's a reason Consumer Reports listed them as one of the most unreliable.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 0 points 6 months ago

Really good point.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

The Toyota Way isn't working.

[–] zik@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Or rather bad press for Daihatsu, who this is actually about.

The headline is terrible and misleading.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

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[–] auf@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There are a lot of this kind of troubles appearing in Japan these days, such as Big Motor incidents and Johnny's child abuse scandals. I suspect that these companies have some kinds of collusion between the Japanese government and its related organizations, and the rapport is gradually collapsing (since former president Abe was killed).

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 months ago

I don't think it's collusion as much as not wanting to be the bearer of bad news, which snowballs into a cascade of lies.

[–] Elephant0991@lemmy.bleh.au 5 points 6 months ago

I guess people will cheat and hide it everywhere.