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[–] herzberd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 118 points 10 months ago

idling

With how much power proof of work takes it's more like putting a brick on the gas pedal in park

[–] dimath@ttrpg.network 43 points 10 months ago

The value of mining is in permanent recording of people's current heroin transactions. The bitcoin you get is the reward for the service.

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With how saturated the mining community is, you have to buy a Bugatti, put a brick on the gas pedal, all while sitting in neutral gear, and leave it running for 24/7.

[–] Aasikki@sopuli.xyz 16 points 10 months ago

Not just one Bugatti. Probably at least 100 Bugattis.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Hey, I saw Ferris' day off, I remember how it ended.

What's worse, is you don't even get there on you get a small chance to get a stock-like transaction that could be worth some heroin or notging at all

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Bitcoin=Snitchcoin

Monero won't broadcast every exchange's handler's details: IP address, ID, time & Date, Amount, Target, Totals, etc.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Just use Lightning and you'll have literally the same onion routing as Tor. Monero doesn't hide your IP address or dates either.

If there's ever an inflation bug in Monero (like the value overflow incident), it will go undetected.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't stop the transaction from being broadcast all details. TOR or not don't matter. Broadcast of all details is %100 lightning or not. Monero DOES "hide" your details. It may be visible that I access the Monero network if I don't ride a VPN but it doesn't matter. No more info about said usage is broadcast.

I can see you used PornHub today too. Should have used a VPN. I know how long you watched each of those videos too. Maybe find a VPN that accepts Monero, not the Snitchcoin.

"Bug" LMFAO

[–] explodicle@local106.com 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We don't strongly disagree here - we're both protecting our online privacy by bouncing that traffic around a little, through either a VPN or Tor.

We're betting our freedom on the assumption that the bad guys won't compromise each hop. It's easier for them to compromise PornHub and then my VPN than it is to compromise each LN hop. So Monero won't make my wanking any safer; the dick police will just go after the weakest link.

The value overflow incident was a bug that allowed some dude to give himself a bazillion bitcoins. It was caught and fixed before he spent any.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

I'm betting on the ability to have the masses learn to protect themselves by adapting to FOSS.

In other words. We're all gonna die. Very fucking soon. Faster than any cracker can break Monero.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just use coinjoin over Tor

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Or swap for Monero over Bisq (TOR market). Whatever. Bitcoin is Snitchcoin. Everything is broadcast enough you cannot avoid it. Even your methods aren't enough.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Zcash too if you enable it

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fraud. Zcash is closed source. Also it's a backdoor backstabbing snitch coin too. Touching that is ignorant.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Willing to be wrong as I mostly observe from afar but the repo is here: https://github.com/zcash/zcash

How z-to-z shielded transactions using zero-knowledge proofs snitching?

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah but you could actually do useful things with the power from an idling car.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t mean literally a car, I was going a long with their metaphor.

I saw a Veritasium video where they use a massive engine as part of a whole facility that tests buildings for earthquakes. That’s not something that’s going to be a problem. And in some applications, fossil fuels are what makes sense to use.

We should definitely use them in as few applications as possible, but yeah, if you wanna act like we should stop using them completely, in all applications, you can keep hallucinating.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I was mostly making a joke about how bad cars are for the environment, not really adding anything of substance to the conversation.

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[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago

If you're doing something with the output of the engine then it's not idling, strictly speaking.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could do useful things with the power used to generate Bitcoin too.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Generally, however, it is not easily converted to heroin

[–] Deiv@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Use a computer to work -> get paid -> buy heroin

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (17 children)

they real story is more interesting. it's just a shame that the incentives were aligned a bit askew. people gonna people.

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[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wish for Lemmy Gold hoo boy

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 43 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Could donate to OP's instance. More useful than reddit gold ever was that way.

A button for that would be pretty neat.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Maybe make it more interesting "give this man a medal" and you pay money for that, but the money gets donated to the instance. That could be cool.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yep, people will throw hundreds if not thousands of dollars at big tech giant for random useless cosmetic stuff. Using this late stage consumerism drive for actual good is honestly the best solution. This is not sarcasm. I actually lost faith in the fight against Hyper-consumerism.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago

Great idea!

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Hm. I guess I have to get out the 'ol hose and canister again.

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