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Bar owner is arrested after St. Louis police officer crashes into his business (www.seattletimes.com)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world
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Sorry folks, this didn't look paywalled for me when I posted it.

Links others have provided:

https://archive.md/EwTss

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/20/gay-bar-pm-st-louis-police-crash-owner-arrest/71986781007/

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[–] fpslem@lemmy.world 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Non-paywalled article here:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/12/20/gay-bar-pm-st-louis-police-crash-owner-arrest/71986781007/

Officers arrested one of the bar's owners because he refused to show them ID? The officers just crashed into his bar in the middle of the night, he gets out of bed to see what that loud noise was, and they arrest him because he won't show them ID? In Missouri police can only ask to see ID if there is a reasonable suspicion of some wrongdoing, and I can't see that a building owner is doing anything wrong when he checks on the probationary cops that just plowed into his building because they suck at driving or were driving too fast.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

because they suck at driving or were driving too fast.

They ran a red light just before the crash, and other officers refused to use a breathalyzer on them. No blood samples were taken either.

[–] Big_Boss_77@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Owning a building/business while gay is a felony in Missouri...

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit, is the bar owner gay? I live in Missouri, on the opposite end of the state, and there's a gay couple that own a really popular bar in town.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The business they smashed into is an LGBT bar

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve been seriously thinking of building an LGBT bar. Does anyone know where I can purchase gay bricks?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Gay bricks are made from gay clay, so they say

[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

My experience with Missouri police was not a good one. They lied and said my taillights (yes, both) were out and "that" was why they pulled me over apparently. So he took me to his car, where I could see my taillights functioning, and accused me of smuggling drugs from México. Apparently, because I had taken a road trip to New Mexico (which he interrogated out of me), that means that I had drugs from the country México. Tell me how a police officer doesn't know New Mexico is a state...

To top it all off, he told me to stop breaking the law and let me on my way without so much as a clue to what law I was breaking.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This article is utterly devoid of details. I hope to hear more about this soon.

Edit: apparently I did not read the whole thing. I stopped when I got to this:

"To continue reading, log in or subscribe.”

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I read another article with more detail, unfortunately it was a police statement, so you know for a fact it's mostly lies.

They claim he attacked the cops when they crashed through his business, which I don't buy for a second. More likely he got rightly pissed, bitched out the cops and they didn't like being yelled at and arrested him.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

All of that is in the original article, I'm not sure what you guys are seeing.

Edit: Apparently it's paywalled for some people? No idea why it's not for me.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Article says video shows the owner didn't strike the officer.

[–] beerclue@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

There's a lot of detail there... Did you go all the way down? Anyway, that's messed up!

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

... Did you just stop at the title?

There's like 25 paragraphs detailing the whole situation. Only thing really missing is the footage NYT supposedly saw.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There’s like 25 paragraphs detailing the whole situation.

No there isn't. There is only a whiny message bitching at me to turn off private browsing mode and subscribe. An article that refuses to display doesn't count as an article.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wasn't for me, but:

Https://12ft.io

[–] don@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The article is paywalled.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Huh, wasn't for me, but ~~NYT~~ Seattle Times (fooled by the damn font) so...

Https://12ft.io

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

It is 2024, you're on Lemmy you should know how to bypass a paywall...

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Cops who break the law should lose qualified community and have harsher penalties. Arrest these cops for assault, fabricating police reports, and making false witness statements.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Abuses of a position of public trust should be a capital crime.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There shouldn't be capital crimes at all, because the people deciding who committed a capital crime and should die are the ones who shoot people in the wrong house or speed drunk through red lights and blame the victims.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Capital punishment should be limited to police officers, elected/appointed government officials, and select white collar crime. People that are given positions of public trust and power should be held to a higher standard of discipline to ensure they don't abuse their power.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I guess my point is that I don't trust half of our establishment to use such an ability at all, even if it would be valid/legal/morally correct to do so, and the other half will use it to punish their opponents regardless of reality.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Qualified Immunity already doesn't protect police from breaking the law. Police don't get in trouble for breaking the law because their buddies protect them, not because of Qualified Immunity. That's to protect officers from being sued for rights violations. As in, they can violate your rights to privacy, free speech, freedom of association, etc, and not get in trouble for it. You have to sue the city/state instead.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

That's one count of parking your bar in the way of a police cruiser and one count of being gay in st. louis. Bake 'em away, toys.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Archived link

https://archive.md/EwTss

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Appreciated, thank you.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

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