Yeah thatβs because they canβt sell your location data to the police.
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
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Why not?
Because they have to comply with lawful subpoenas for free.
But they could still sell it for money if they wanted to, that was my point.
If it's on sale the nsa probably bought it already to be honest
even if it wasn't, NSA would've probably bought it already anyway
I could see them blocking it too maintain an exclusivity deal
Stole. The NSA steals data from companies like Google. That's why, for example, everything in data centers and everything sent between them is encrypted.
And also because Google doesn't sell data.
Hahaha. Thatβs a joke right?
Do they sell data or sell services using data they collect? Honest question.
I believe generally not. They sell the results of processed data, but the data is their golden goose. Why sell it wholesale, when you can charge for every use of it?
That's what I thought. So they do in a sense sell our data but not directly.
I think they profile individuals and sell those profiles to ad companies, or in the case of google (ad company AND source of data) they pair ads to devices that fit a profile for the ad, like "rides a bike", "risk averse", "owns several cats" would be a profile for an ad selling cat bike seats that can hold 4 cats. That's one way of using the data but there are many more, each more nefarious than the previous one, I guess culminating with Cambridge Analytica, especially their African endeavours.
Btw is your username in reference to the band can?
Btw is your username in reference to the band can?
Yes it is! You're only the second person to catch that in my 6 months here.
Google is the ad company. They don't sell their primary business advantage to competitors.
CA bought data from Facebook, not Google.
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Where do I go to buy a list of your location history off Google if it's not true?
Ok I just went down a very deep internet rabbit hole and went from believing google definitely sells data to it doesn't sell data to it sells data (kinda). I'd recommend this article on RTB's which explains how google advertisements actually work and how they leak your data (including your location).
I'd also recommend watching the short video by Brave linked in the article - I didn't understand the first part but the actual article explains it quite well, the end is the juicy part.
Hope this helps!
If anything they'd be buying since they're the ones presenting ads... The whole data selling discussion online is always ridiculous. Who are these mystical data buyers ready to shell out billions for crappy "data" (does anyone participating in these discussions actually have a definition of what they think this ridiculously non specific ""data"" even is?) to present slightly better ads to users? Why would Google sell this data, shouldn't they want to keep it to themselves?
selling your data refers to people buying ads and being like I want to show my dog food ad to 100,000 people who have a dog, and then Google only shows the ad to people who have a dog
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You don't kill the golden goose.
Use Organic maps and continue contributing to openstreetmap
Have not heard of this but I'm looking into it now. Thanks!
Yeah street complete ( the app mostly used to contribute to osm) is really cool and a lot of fun
If you do crime, leave your phone at home
Yeah if you attend a protest, go to church or vote leave your phone at home.
Damn the world is getting crazy
Where is the problem with going to the church?
You've never seen The Kingsman?
Likely not. Apologies for missing the reference, but I don't have a clue
Look up "Kingsman church scene" or watch the movie. The scene is one of the best action scenes. Won't necessarily spoil the movie but will give up some info.
The government will know you went to church. That's pretty scary if you ask me. Church should be a safe place and having the government track you literally anywhere is concerning. Not to mention it opens up the door for people to be watched even more because they attended a church, mosque or something else.
I was gonna say, I. In this country I get more worried that I don't attend.
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Technically speaking, anywhere that your face/body/gait can be seen/analysed, is where you will be tracked. At this point, the most prudent thing to do is to completely divorce your online identity from your physical self.
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I feel like the vast majority of headlines about this stuff could use clarification of "without warrant."
Why bother with Google when they can just ask your telco.
Because that data tells them a lot less and requires a paper trail, which they don't like.
Telco doesn't have the same level of precision I think.
Yes and no
The Telco can say between what antennas you are. In urban areas with lots of antennas that's still pretty accurate to almost say what building. Especially with 5G the number of antennas and accuracy go upto in some cases centimeter/inch accuracy so better than GPS. That last case would be in a mall with small antenna in each corridor.
In rural areas with data switched off that's more like somewhere in that square mile, way worse than GPS.
They can still access it locally, if Google wanted to protect people then they wouldnβt store location data
How about the case where I explicitly want them to store my location data? I mean I really use and like that feature.
I want them to. I opted in and use that feature.
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I'm using this feature and am looking forward to it becoming on-device.
Like Apple, Google also doesn't want competitors in collecting user data
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