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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 266 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Response from the admins

From where I'm sitting it looks like classic overconfidence. I would say keep your eyes open in the future but don't pick up the pitchforks just yet.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks. This community needed your logical input. I've been following this over the past few days and it seems like a blatent Reddit-type pitchfork situation. Based on the mods response and the absolute lack of proof surrounding the mods profiting from the crypto miner (honestly who the actual fuck even came up with this?), I think we need to all take a beat.

Also I don't follow cracked games but this Emperess person seems like a fucking psychopath and the fact that literally anyone here believes a word she says is absolutely astonishing.

I am asking this community to PLEASE STOP REPOSTING THIS. Don't let this community follow the ways of Reddit, please. We are better than that.

[–] Sanrasxz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, this entire thing looks very blown out of proportion to me. It's not the first time and not the last time there will be malware in a brand new game torrent on 1337x.

This exact situation has happened before with a new game torrent that had malware, torrent eventually got taken down, and nobody raised a huge fuss other than not to download that torrent.

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[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 234 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You know it's bad when the almost constantly unhinged 'Empress' is the one speaking sense.

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You looked at that screenshot and said, "Ah yes, here's someone speaking sense" ?

[–] teft@startrek.website 88 points 1 year ago

It's a sliding scale.

[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Haha, yeah okay perhaps sense isn't the correct word.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago

Something something broken clock

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[–] DonnieDarkmode@lemm.ee 185 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll translate: “I find actions of the 1337x admins disappointing. Deleting my torrents causes confusion for the user base, and these actions reflect poorly on your character, suggesting pusillanimity and insufficient discretion when selecting a sexual partner.”

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There should be an Empress translator bot

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That would be possible now with GPT technology. Just not OpenAI, because I assume everything Empress says is against their terms of service.

[–] p1mrx@lemmy.world 117 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I haven't had the courage to run executable code from P2P networks since the early 2000s. Even then it was probably a bad idea.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 91 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don’t know why, but I think calling people “pathetic cowardly whores” in this specific situation is hilarious.

What, exactly, does one have to do when moderating a torrent site to earn the title of “whore”?

[–] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I were to wager a guess, empress is not a first language English speaker, and to her , it’s just a preferred general severe insult.

[–] 00@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

combined with her being completely unhinged lol

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[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see Empress is still subtle and classy as always.

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[–] Digester@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Fuck Empress, however she's right on this specific matter.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 69 points 1 year ago

I guess if you lash out at absolutely everybody, eventually one of them will do something to deserve it.

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[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 year ago (38 children)

Cool, then what will be the 1337x alternative?

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I learned about https://torrentgalaxy.to/ recently. I'm not positive it's a good alternative though.

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[–] Meganium97@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Empress, though an interesting individual herself, is at least correct this time.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I wouldn't trust anything from a P2P site that purports to be:

  1. A cracked game / application for desktop and mobile platforms. Maybe it's legit but assume it is malware.
  2. A serial number generator. If you absolutely must run one of these do it from a throwaway VM, or via WINE emulation to mitigate what it might do.
  3. An encrypted archive with a README. It's a scam designed to make people sign up to other scams to release a non-existent password.
  4. A movie / audio with an extension such as .scr, .wma, .com, .exe etc. It's malware.

Movies, audio & books are generally safe providing they use a recognized extension - mp3, mp4, pdf, mkv, aac, flac, epub etc. Stuff that runs under emulation like console games is generally safe. I say "generally" because an exploit could still be crafted to escape a popular media player or emulator and cause actual harm to your computer.

All the ads and 3rd party scripts should be considered malicious too and should be erased with an adblocker, or even better use Tor.

So basically use some common sense and if you really want some game or app, just buy the damned thing or wait for it to go on sale.

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[–] zahel@cosmere.xyz 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

For those asking “private trackers what’s that?”

/r/trackers (on the bad site I know) has a lot of info

For those who may be interested in getting into private trackers, you should start with Myanonamouse.net in my opinion. They do an interview on the irc which is easy and you can join that way https://www.myanonamouse.net/inviteapp.php

It is a tracker for ebooks/audiobooks/comics that is easy to maintain a ratio on (via their generous bonus point system) as long as you are a decent seeder.

Once you’re on the site for a few months you can access the invite forum which can get you access to other private trackers. Think of it like a ladder.

Torrentleech (a general private tracker) occasionally has open signups throughout the year.

[–] Yendor@reddthat.com 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m on multiple private trackers, and they all hosted the infected version (they’ve been taken down now). Private doesn’t make it safe, especially when people are using automated tools to be the first to upload a torrent.

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[–] Morgikan@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What evidence has been found that links the crypto-mining wallets with the 1337X admins?

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I think there's been comments calling out the malware that have been deleted, possibly by the admins. In addition the infected torrentes stayed up for a long while (not sure if they still are or not)

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate empress but even I have to agree sometimes.

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[–] rebelappliance@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a screenshot of a tweet so you know it's true

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

At the risk of asking an incredibly stupid question, but if I only ever torrent video/audio, scan everything I download with defender, and only ever use a recently updated version of vlc, what's the risk?

I remember getting viruses in ye olden days, but afaik the main problem is malware now.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Risk is practically nothing in your case, because you're being careful, and know what you're doing. You won't run a binary when you were expecting the Barbie movie, for example.

If you were downloading binaries, then your risk is significant, but even then, unless you're downloading new releases immediately, it's likely that your antivirus will catch the new popular ransomware after a few days, when a few thousands of people have become infected. Governments won't employ valuable zero-days on any rando who just wants to see their new isekai episode.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

If you're using Windows, just make sure file extensions are visible and that your file isn't named Movie.mp4.exe

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[–] CummandoX@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this is probably obvious to many people, but if a charitable soul could explain to me what a miner is and why the admins are involved in it, it would be very much appreciated. Also, explain like I am 5 if possible

[–] vahtos@programming.dev 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A cryptocurrency miner. It uses your computer to generate currency, which costs you resources (electricity, compute power, etc.).

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[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was anyone under the impression that everything on the site was free of malware? Has such a torrent site ever existed?

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem isn't that there is malware on the site, it's linked to admins as distributors.

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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's one torrent that's not safe. That doesn't make the entirety of the website unsafe!

[–] aranym@lemmy.name 64 points 1 year ago

If the admins endorse malware, it's best to assume the entire site is compromised.

[–] Odusei@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If the admin are in cahoots with the crypto mining douchebag, then no part of the site is safe.

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[–] AndreTelevise@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago

There is literally no public torrent tracker out there that has no issues...

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