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Turmoil at OpenAI shows we must address whether AI developers can regulate themselves (theconversation.com)

submitted 10 months ago by King@r.nf to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody can regulate themselves. There. I made a whole lot of things easier.

[–] CharlesMangione@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

An artificial intelligence designed to the task could, but

[–] hersh@literature.cafe 5 points 10 months ago

But then it will follow hallucinated regulations.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My conspiracy theory is that AI is already running OpenAI, which explains all the weird erratic decisions

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

What do you mean we weren't trained on boardroom shadow takeovers by 49% non-voting members scenarios?

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Narrator: they can't

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago

...and they shouldn't even if they could.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago

Nobody can regulate themselves, that's like... the whole point of regulation

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Expand that to any of the toddler-brained tech bros and you've got a plan started.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because we want a bunch of 80 year olds telling tech what to do.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They already do that. Doesn't make the Elons not also a problem.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

I'd rather the problem that can't send armed goons after me.

[+] Sheeple@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Hey shill here. I also shill for other artistic tools like cameras and CGI. Got a lot of hate back when CGI and digital painting were still controversial. Don't know if such "art" will ever truly be accepted by the art police, i guess AI art tools will join them.

Personally I think independent artists can accomplish much more with tools like these than they could just pretending to be a Disney art director with all the pretend Disney interns not actually helping their vision come to life.

I like when art isn't monopolized by the ones with all the money. I also like when we allow open models that aren't proprietary adobe subscriptions.

Also this thread is hilarious. OpenAI are literally asking to be regulated by more democratic external bodies. They've been making every effort one could expect on this front, but I guess that doesn't matter?

It's like when Altman went to the senate and said "regulate larger and more capable models like we will have, but don't stifle and limit open source and smaller startups"

And everyone started bashing openAI for encouraging regulation of open source.

If I'm a brain dead tech bro, at least I have decades of familiarity with art, copywrite woes, and AI/ML. Back in school I was just called a nerd, but I guess that framing doesn't really work these days so i need to be compared to frat bro adventure capitalists every time I have an opinion that's not negative to new technologies.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz -5 points 10 months ago

Just so you know I was referencing turds like Elon Musk, whatever his name is at OpenAI and spez. That kind of excrement.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Spoiler alert: No business regulates themselves effectively. Those that do only do it under duress of govt doing it if they don't.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

In other words, this is more corporate propaganda trying to vilify open source LLMs because they can bypass regulations.

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

Tell me one industry that's ever self regulated properly.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They can't, businesses explicitly are incompatible with self-regulation. I'm not saying let's overregulate the hell out of everything and stop all growth and prevent anything from being possible, but I think there's probably a middle ground here.