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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 463 points 11 months ago (22 children)

I don't feel bad for the guy, but I don't celebrate this sort of vigilante justice, either. Prisoners should be safe from other prisoners. Prison is not meant to be torture, and recidivism is a massive problem in the United States. Chauvin will have 20 years to contemplate his crimes, and treating him and every other prisoner will only reinforce their criminal proclivities.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 246 points 11 months ago (2 children)

American prisons ARE meant for torture. Don't get it twisted.

If they were for rehabilitation or treatment, then we would see to that, societally. But we don't.

This is a small piece of why our justice system is so absolutely fucked.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 96 points 11 months ago (13 children)

American prisons ARE meant for torture. Don’t get it twisted.

naw. not really. Prisons are meant to provide cheap domestic labor to the corporations running them. it's all profits.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 96 points 11 months ago

Well both those things can be true.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Never forget, it’s actually legal to enslave prisoners according to the 13th Amendment.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

yup. And there is a reason why laws are written to disproportionately affect certain groups- like how crack cocaine gets more jail time than powder, or marijuana convictions...

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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (9 children)

i think you’re responding to a normative statement by making a descriptive statement.

for those unaware, here’s a quick explanation from wikipedia: a normative statement is “meant to talk about the world as it should be”, while a descriptive statement is “meant to describe the world as it is”.

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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So much this man. Guy was an asshole, but he and everyone else should be safe in prison.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's start with making everyone else safe, then.

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Very glad this is currently the top comment. I was worried I’d run into a comment thread cheering for violence that simply shouldn’t have happened.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 159 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Maybe Chauvin stabbed himself in a state of "excited delirium."

The important thing is, the inmate investigated himself and decided that he did nothing wrong.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 151 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I'm sorely tempted to start circulating claims about what Chauvin had in his system at the time.

EDIT - Also, this shit:

Chauvin’s stabbing comes as the federal Bureau of Prisons has faced increased scrutiny in recent years following wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein’s jail suicide in 2019. It’s another example of the agency’s inability to keep even its highest profile prisoners safe after Nassar’s stabbing and “Unabomber” Ted Kaczynski’s suicide at a federal medical center in June.

Oh it's a problem all of a sudden. Can't imagine why.

[–] MidRomney@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm sorely tempted to start circulating claims about what Chauvin had in his system at the time.

A shiv

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago
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[–] DABDA@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

I’m sorely tempted to start circulating claims about what Chauvin had in his system at the time.

Are we certain the wound was caused by a stabbing and not "Incarceration Delirium"? Or maybe it's a holy miracle stigmata!

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 141 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Murderer. The proper way to refer to him, mainstream news, is "the murderer Derek Chauvin". He was convicted of murdering George Floyd.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 62 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, I like reminding everyone that he was a police officer when this sort of thing comes up.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 100 points 11 months ago (5 children)

How about " Convicted Murderer and disgraced police officer Derek Chauvin", that should keep most of us happy.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Disgraced police officer is redundant.

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[–] bricklove@midwest.social 126 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I feel this whole case is everything wrong with the justice system (aside from him actually facing consequences). A corrupt cop with a history of violence gets attacked in an overpopulated and understaffed prison where folks are punished instead of rehabilitated.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Right, none of these things should have happened at all. It's just a negative feedback loop of incompetence and corruption.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This person spent a career throwing people into this exact system. Eagerly, if my perception of his past behavior after watching his entire trial is at all representative.

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 126 points 11 months ago

He should have just complied.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 93 points 11 months ago (15 children)

While it's easy to not sympathize with a person like that, no inmates should be getting stabbed in prison. It's still wrong. And still a symptom of the bad justice system in the US.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 81 points 11 months ago (1 children)

are we sure he didn't overdose? let's not jump to conclusions here.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 75 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure he would have been fine if he just complied.

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Of course this would happen, but yeah, he shouldn't have been stabbed in prison. I hope that's obvious to everyone.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should reform our prison system so this kind of thing doesn't happen.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 52 points 11 months ago (12 children)

But if people don't suffer in prison how will you make them afraid of committing crimes? /s

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 45 points 11 months ago

It shouldn't have but I'm not going to cry about it.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a sharpened melted toothbrush, is a good guy with a sharpened melted toothbrush.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 47 points 11 months ago

I’m just glad he survived. Death is an escape he doesn’t deserve yet. He’s got many more years of “fun” to look forward to.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While I don't particularly rejoice at the idea of anyone getting stabbed, I also can't possibly shed a tear for this guy.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In November 2022, an inmate at the facility’s low-security prison camp pulled out a gun and attempted to shoot a visitor in the head. The weapon, which the inmate shouldn’t have had ....

Well, that seems a bit obvious.

[–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Just to take a jab at the US from a European perspective...

You don't have the right to bear arms in prison? I thought guns were sacred in the US!?

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[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope he was stabbed somewhere where he found out what it was like to not be able to breathe.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I heard he had drugs in his system at the time which justifies the stabbing for some reason

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I heard he had a criminal record

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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

Well now he has felt the fear of death from the violence of another person too.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ohh so this is why murderers should go to maximum security instead of medium.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 37 points 11 months ago

Particularly vicious and unrepentant murderers who killed a man in broad daylight as his gang cheered.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Probably shouldnt have murdered Floyd ~~over 20 bucks.~~

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I'm soooo surprised an ex-officer got stabbed in prison. Who could've seen this coming?

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda freeing to be done with the disney channel ass idea that you should never celebrate others' misfortune. It lets headlines like this be heartwarming instead of disappointing

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (7 children)

That people are being stabbed in prison is an indictment on the barbarity of our prison system, so this should still piss you off.

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[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not a single person could have seen this coming

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