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Spoofing Chrome magically makes this problem go away. The slow down is 5 secs according to the video.

Update 1: Safari faces the same treatment

Update 2: Google confirms 5 sec delays for ad-block user

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[–] undeadfoodsnob@lemmy.world 163 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I dont believe this will have the desired affect Google thinks it will. I, personally, will never buy Premium or switch to Chrome without an AD block. If anything, I will just download via linux or just not watch Youtube anymore.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 58 points 11 months ago

That's the fucking spirit. Here, I'm joining you. Fuck Google.

[–] doink@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

I have been a premium user for years. Mostly because I was using Google music before. With all this crap they are pulling, I cancelled. I cannot support this anymore.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Ever since I discovered Piped and LibreTube, I never looked back.And I used premium for years.

[–] DuskyRo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only there was an easy way to selfhost piped or viewtube...

I swear there would be more instances if they made an easy step by step guide but I guess that's life when you choose FOSS...

[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure if this post was /s or not, but ViewTube is actually pretty easy to self host if you have a docker host in your current environment. They even provide a docker compose example on the wiki.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Piped is just too inconsistent for me. I gave it a solid month or two, but half the time I open it up none of the instances are loading any videos. Eventually I gave up and looked into other options, ended up using FreeTube.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Freetube on desktop, Newpipe on android. This is the way.

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[–] kubica@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

It's possibly dedicated to messing around for people testing firefox after the news.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 11 months ago

To be clear, is this delay skipped for subscribers?

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[–] Carobu@lemmy.world 91 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure this is going to directly violate Internet neutrality laws when the FCC votes them back into effect.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 46 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Well played.

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[–] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Didn't similar shit get Microsoft hit with antitrust lawsuits?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but that was back when we had a mostly functional government. Times have changed.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Disfunctional goverment benefits the rich almost exclusively. Sad days ahead.

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 14 points 11 months ago

Maybe... Hope someone sues YT :)

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Yes… many years later, and while those lawsuits were slowly being resolved, Microsoft was busy laying the groundwork for other bullshit that was unethical but not technically illegal.

If you actually expect a solution in a reasonable amount of time, either invent time travel or spoof Chrome.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Ive been noticing this recently too also buffering occasionally on random videos from time to time when im having 0 connectivity issues. This isint going to make the average person think firefox is bad but rather that youtube is garbage

[–] MooseLad@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm one of 5 people who have premium (I use YouTube Music) and they're still slowing down videos for me. Also maybe it's in my head, but I think the Google search has been taking longer too. I've noticed some extra loading time that doesn't show up in Microsoft edge, or if I use duckduckgo/bing from Firefox.

[–] EddieTee77@lemdro.id 16 points 11 months ago

I have had random freezing on the mobile Firefox for months now. I typically search in a private tab with a bunch of trackers disabled. If I do the same search in Chrome, Edge, Samsung Internet (in their incognito tabs) the searches load. This seems like a block on Firefox itself

[–] Yeldarb12@toast.ooo 11 points 11 months ago

I would have thought the exact same thing. I like having videos play in the background so I wouldn't have looked into it anyway.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Gonna keep talking about Peertube until it starts to take off.

Seriously, how great would it be for your fave youtubers to have their own Peertube instance, and know that your donations go DIRECTLY to support them and maintain their server? With NO advertisements or possibility of Google shutting you down just cuz they dont like you

[–] jack@monero.town 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your fav youtubers might host their own peertube someday, but there is still a lot of value in the other content that you don't consume regularly like tutorials or random interesting stuff. Peertube is not the ultimate solution

[–] ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I'm in full agreement here. I will always try to support the things I follow the most but probably my favorite thing about current media is finding a random person who does something incredibly niche and watching/listening a vid/song or two of theirs. I'll come every couple of months or so but I'm not consuming their content regularly. Tutorials as you mentioned are a great example of this.

I did the math a year or two that if I paid a single dollar to every YouTuber I watch and musician I listen to on Spotify I would be paying around $400 a month. In an idyllic world I would have a stable job with enough expendable income to make that happen. In this reality I don't see that as a possibility.

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

I was wondering what that was for a few days. I thought it was just uBlock Origin doing its work.

[–] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] wischi@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

It's probably not, and now?

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago

Fuck Google

Use Invidious or Piped to bypass the ads, tracking as well as the slow down. You can combine it with LibRedirect to automatically redirect all YouTube links to Invidious or Piped. Works like a dream. Another option is FreeTube, it's a desktop client for YouTube that can also use the Invidious API.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, user agent switcher set to chrome, made vids load immediately. Shitty move google.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago

Just use Invidious with LibRedirect. If everyone spoofs their user-agent to Firefox, Google will say 'No one uses Firefox'

[–] pepsison52895@lemmy.one 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is this only in certain areas? YouTube is still working fine for me on FireFox.

[–] Mixel@feddit.de 7 points 11 months ago

I think I have some slowdowns FF with unlock Origin in Germany so maybe

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[–] dnnybrks@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I use https://piped.video/trending as an alternative to YouTube.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

US DOJ has an anti-trust complaint page... Easy to find via search...

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Begun, the Chrome spoof wars have.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

Just use Invidious with LibRedirect. If everyone spoofs their user-agent to Firefox, Google will say 'No one uses Firefox'

[–] dan@upvote.au 10 points 11 months ago

If everyone spoofs the Chrome user agent, they're going to think that fewer and fewer people are using Firefox on YouTube, which is not ideal :(

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 11 points 11 months ago

Fuck Google, Fuck Youtube, Fuck Alphabet, Honestly just fuck everyone who does this shit

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've noticed this happening on Firefox, but not with LibreWolf for some reason

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Does Librewolf present itself differently or use a different user agent altogether? I could see Librewolf presenting itself as Chromium as a privacy measure and people are saying changing the user agent fixes the issue.

EDIT: I've seen this happen on Safari for macOS. Someone at Apple is certainly snitching to their higher-ups, lol.

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I called it. However I didn't expect them to do it that early.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

google's been messing with firefox on yt for years.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I had this the past ~3 days, but now it's gone as of yesterday evening.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

I am not spoofing my user agent and I'm going to continue using FOSS front-ends to access YouTube until an alternative takes off. Fuck you Google.

[–] Octopus1348@thelemmy.club 7 points 11 months ago

What is a user agent changer you'd recommend? When I'm on Linux, I use a Firefox PWA as my YouTube webapp.

[–] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if I would change the useragent?

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

He says that in the comment body.

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