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[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 229 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure the actual CP played a bigger role in the sentencing

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 138 points 7 months ago

Yeah this is a scary, clickbaity headline meant to invoke a negative response about AI. AI is a tool, like a computer or pipe wrench. It can be used for good or bad.

The sicko got what he deserved, but the AI bit is rather over-the-top.

[-] livus@kbin.social 98 points 7 months ago

The part that freaks me out is more that he was in an influential position in children's lives and he was making images of the specific children who were his patients.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 53 points 7 months ago

This is unfortunately not that uncommon. Pedos often work in child focused jobs. Very disturbing, and that's why background checks are important in those fields.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 7 months ago

Not only pedos, in general sadistic people tend to try and get jobs which would give them the feeling of power over someone, and not all of them can be dictators, warlords, just politicians, even lowly prison guards or policemen, also cowardice is a factor. So - child-related jobs.

But, to be frank, I'm not sure background checks are going to do that much good. People of this kind tend to bunch together, help each other, and can either get past the radar rather easy or utilize these checks to discredit anybody who'd be a threat to them.

It's a complex matter.

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[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Exactly, it's not the AI bit, it's the rest of the story about how this dude was in a position of power to exploit children (and did so) that's just fucking sick.

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[-] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 85 points 7 months ago

In this case there are several crimes, but in the other one mentioned about a korean there is nothing, only possession of generated content arguing that there is high realism (someone could say the same even of a sketch). To imprison for acts that have neither victims nor any harm either directly or indirectly, is more aberrant than possessing that.

PS: I'm just talking about legality and rights, I know it's controversial and I'm sure someone has something to argue against it, but if you're going to accuse me of being a pedo just get lost you moron.

[-] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I agree with what you are saying.

however, I think psychologists might not be a fan of giving them access to that material. I think the reason is because they would end up looking fore more and more extreme material and they could end up offending as a result of that

[-] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Afaik we're still yet to find out whether viewing AI-generated material makes an individual look for real-life child abuse imagery.

I believe viewing the latter allows many to keep real-life urges under control (might re-check materials on that), but it obviously comes with its own issues. If we can make AI generated child pornography, and if it doesn't make people go look for the "real stuff", we might actually make a very positive impact on child safety.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago

According to the few studies we have in the nineties and aughts most people who have sexual attractions to kids are aware acting on them can be harmful and will turn to alternative ways to explore them (when they can't be suppressed or redirected.) So yes, now we have victimless ways to produce porn, the objections are to the fetishes themselves, not to resulting violent behavior.

That said people commonly and openly express their distaste for such people, more so than domestic violence offenders who assault their kids, just not sexually. The same general disdain for child-sex-attracted adults does not transfer to action to feed children or protect them from abusive households.

That said, when we've worried about fiction driving people to act it out in reality, historically this has been demonstrated wrong every single time. Women are not driven to scandal and harlot behavior from trashy romance. Teens are not driven to violence from violent movies or video games. We can expect porn featuring childreb is not going to compell someone to seek to actually sex-assault kids.

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[-] Daxtron2@lemmy.ml 77 points 7 months ago

He used a web based stable diffusion to generate CP. Absolute genius level move 😂

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 102 points 7 months ago

Things to never say before committing a crime:

"Wait, let me sign in with my Google account first."

[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 18 points 7 months ago

Our legal system basically relies on the fact that criminals are that stupid.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 7 months ago

People have been caught making bomb threats using their own phones. Some people are just not bright enough to be able to survive in this world.

It's for people like them that you have to have signs everywhere that say things like, don't stick your hand in the crushy grindy place, this hot water is hot, and don't drink bleach you'll die.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 7 months ago

You would be surprised how many absolutely idiotic Pedos are out there

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 7 months ago

People in general really. Some of the stuff your average person does on the internet and their devices absolutely stumps me, and I'm not even that tech savvy.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 62 points 7 months ago

They should become a Republican speaker. Then they'll get a TON of support from the Protect The Children crowd!

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 37 points 7 months ago

Or a pastor so the church can relocate them to a fresh batch of victims.

[-] ARk@lemm.ee 49 points 7 months ago
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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 7 months ago
[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 months ago

Blocking any/all users of the "it's just art" and the "no kids were actually used so it's not child pornography" crowds.

Christ, the comments just kept getting worse.

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[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 months ago

Wtaf are these comments.

Go home you sick fucks.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 15 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"As a child psychiatrist, Tatum knew the damaging, long-lasting impact sexual exploitation has on the wellbeing of victimized children," said US Attorney Dena J.

The trial evidence cited by the government includes a secretly-made recording of a minor (a cousin) undressing and showering, and other videos of children participating in sex acts.

"Additionally, trial evidence also established that Tatum used AI to digitally alter clothed images of minors making them sexually explicit," prosecutors said.

"Specifically, trial evidence showed that Tatum used a web-based artificial intelligence application to alter images of clothed minors into child pornography."

In prepared remarks [PDF] delivered at a US Senate subcommittee hearing earlier this year, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said, "GPT-4 is 82 percent less likely to respond to requests for disallowed content compared to GPT-3.5, and we use a robust combination of human and automated review processes to monitor for misuse.

A recent report from investigative organization Balkan Insight says groups like Thorn have been supporting CSAM detection legislation to make online content scanning compulsory in part because they provide that service.


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