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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago (12 children)

But if you give houses to the homeless, they will no longer be homeless and who am I going to look down on now?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And what else will I complain about when I go downtown? I want to be able to complain about how we need to clean the riffraff of the streets, but it gives me no joy if we're actually getting them off the streets! I need something to fucking whinge about!

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people who complain about downtowns never go there anyways.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Exactly. I fucking live downtown and I have more to complain about businesses that operate down here than the damn homeless.

The only "thugs" I ever see downtown is the posse of ten cops it takes to shoo one homeless person out of a park.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

COP = Criminals On Patrol

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well if the homeless are off the streets, then the turtles and rats can come back out of the sewers. Go rant at Splinter

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bourgeoisie requires a risk of destitution to prevent the proletariat from rising up.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There is already an order of magnitude more unused housing than unhoused people- the problem is that the market is involved and that requires winners and losers.

That's why you have people dying of exposure in the richest country in the history of the world. God damn america.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

G-give....away? N-n-no money for me?? But money me, now. Money now. Money! House = money! Empty house, no money is ok, full house no money NOT OK!

CoMmUnIsM!!!

-Landleeches

[–] BattleBeetle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Land of the free. Free to sleep under any bridge that isn't spiked.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread."

-Anatole France

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Not only that - they’re dying in the street immediately adjacent to vacant luxury condos.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

Throw in unaddressed mental health and drug crises.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (8 children)

"but who will pay for it?1!?1?!1?"

The government

"But then my taxes are going to do some good! That can't be!!!"

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Housing first is a proven strategy in dealing with homelessness. The fact that every state has not adopted these policies to help eliminate the homeless population shows this is more a cultural issue than a lack of housing.

According to the Census there are a lot more empty houses than homeless people. Let that sink in and you start to realize all is not what it seems.

Until someone is safe and has their basic needs met it is impossible to work on issues such as mental health and addiction.

The solution exists but it is going to take a lot of our time, money, and most importantly a cultural shift away from blaming people to accomplish it.

If we could fix our homelessness then we would show that we truly care about our citizens rather than just paying a lip service to our most vulnerable people.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the Census there are a lot more empty houses than homeless people. Let that sink in and you start to realize all is not what it seems.

This particular statistic needs to be handled carefully. There are problems with both its definition and its nature. Empty housing has a fairly broad definition that includes housing that is unfinished, in the middle of repairs, or unfit for habitation.

The nature of housing with relationship to homelessness depends a lot on where the homeless people are and where the housing is. Empty housing in towns and cities that are depopulating is unlikely to be all that useful. Simply taking people from cities with high levels of homelessness, ripping them out of their communities, and plopping them down into communities that other people are leaving is not a favor.

Also, you shouldn't just warehouse unhoused people in whatever housing is available. Many of them have mental illnesses that need good access to mental health services, transit, and jobs. Just because they're under a roof doesn't mean the job is done. The housing should be tailored to the various populations that it will be serving.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I encourage you to lookup up Housing First if you have not already. While it may be misleading to say there are 16 million vacant home to half a million homeless people (32 homes for every homeless person), for the reasons you mentioned, it is entirely possible house these people.

No one who knows about this issue is thinking about warehousing people. Like you said they need a stable place to live, access to services, transportation, and work when they are ready.

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[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget the Homeless Jesus statues that take up and entire bench so no one can sleep on them.

[–] gkd@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Ah, another “He Gets Us” moment.

“Jesus was homeless for a time (supposedly), so it’s fine for them to be homeless!” ☺️

[–] BillMurray@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I understand this building in downtown Vancouver probably had issues with people sleeping here, but placing a bunch of concrete filled pylons is fucked up.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sledgehammer time. Looks like fun.

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Smashing it to pieces is good practice

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Housing + mental healthcare. Without mental healthcare you’d just be proving these NIMBYs right.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

(sees username)

[–] uis@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Housing + universal healthcare

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Homeless exist to remind the rest of the serfs that they better go back to the coal mine or they'll end up just like them.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Wow. This format is actually put to good use here.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spend some taxpayer money on renovating abandoned shopping malls into housing for the homeless

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not exactly doable since living spaces legally must have egress windows, and shopping malls... Don't really have many outer walls for that compared to the amount of space internally they have

[–] ComaScript@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago

I mean houses cost money, and we know the government don't like spending in the first place, they just worried about public image not the root of the problem

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Greatest meme. series problem.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

"Overwatch, deploying spikes."

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