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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 43 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Title doesn’t provide context: transported a minor for an out of state abortion, son was an adult sleeping with a minor

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Worse.

Apparently she was living with him, and wanted to keep the baby.

He and his parents told her if she kept it or told anyone she was pregnant, that he'd break up with her and kick her out of the house.

Like, this is the exact opposite of what conservatives wanted with their anti abortion law, and likely why they're not using it.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 28 points 8 months ago

Like, this is the exact opposite of what conservatives wanted with their anti abortion law, and likely why they’re not using it.

I hope the Democrats pounce on this, because this is the sort of shit that was considered over emotional hand wringing when people suggested it could happen. But then again, they said the same thing about the 10yo who needed the out of state abortion, o who knows what good it will do....

[–] digdug@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've heard conservatives claim that many liberals actually want forced abortions, because it's really about eugenics and population control.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Fuck im tired and thought you we're claiming liberals we're wanting eugenics and population control. Was about to call ya a gormless cocksucking bastard.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Grey area. Not a large age gap and they were together while both being minors.

That mom and son come across as really gross. I hope that girl gets real help.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I found this at https://www.federallawyers.com/

Strict Limits of Idaho’s Laws

Idaho’s Romeo and Juliet laws have strict limits compared to many states. Key restrictions include:

  • No defenses for victims under 15

  • 3 year max age gap for 16-17 year olds

  • Defendant max age of 17 for 15 year olds

  • Parents can still pursue charges

Overall, Idaho offers relatively weak Romeo and Juliet protections compared to most other states.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Came here to see if anyone investigated Romeo and Juliet laws.

Holy. Shit.

I've never heard of such a draconian application.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 26 points 8 months ago

They are two years apart, both underage. Then when he turned 18, suddenly that makes it different? She had been living with them for an extended period of time and having consensual sex while both were minors. When she became pregnant, the family didn't want her to keep the pregnancy, where the options were to either get an abortion (valid, especially for 16-18 Y/Os still wholly dependent on the parents financially and for shelter) or her going back to her family's Idaho house and having the baby. She chose the former. That's not kidnapping, that's a choice.

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a little misleading, this was a 16 year old who was living with her 18 year old boyfriend and his mom. Obviously having an abortion was the only remotely sensible thing to do rather than bringing a baby into that household.

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She had been in a consensual sexual relationship with Kadyn Swainston since she was 15 and he was 17, and the relationship continued after he turned 18, the girl told police.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

In less ass-backwards states, the age difference would be small enough to eliminate the possibility of sexual assault/statuary rape charges against the son. However, Idaho is... different.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot more to unpack here that isn't in the headline. The whole situation is fucked up.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you have not been to Idaho, just know this insane shit is common. It's the Alabama of the west.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No that's Utah. Idaho is the Mississippi of the West.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Utah is it's own fucked up place unlike anywhere else.

[–] Nipplecreek@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

America failing it's people is the standard

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

I don't know what the right charges are in this situation. Maybe kidnapping is the best they could do, but it certainly sounds like some sort of charges were justified. They coerced her into getting an abortion against her will by threatening to abandon her and kick her out of the house she was living in if she continued the pregnancy.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Holyshit, what a clusterfuck. This actually sounds about right, here.