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[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

my unpopular opinion: homeless encampments in the US are a result of housing becoming unaffordable.

I'm not saying most people ended up in tent cities because they couldn't afford rent. usually people will sleep in their cars, find a spot in a shelter if one's available, crash with relatives etc. at least here (Seattle) most of those who live in big tent cities are homeless because of mental illness: drug addiction and/or psychosis.

but serious addiction isn't new. where did addicts live in the '80s? crack houses! before real estate turned into gold, there was plenty of mold-infested, aabestos-ridden, lead-painted substandard housing left abandoned or rented cheaply by slumlords. junkies could sleep there.

now, most of those buildings have been torn down and luxury condos rebuilt in their place, at least in the big cities.

I'm not pro-crack den. the old buildings were health hazards. but junkies can't afford the upscale housing that replaced them. they can barely afford tents.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online -3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I’m in Little Rock, Arkansas, which has plenty of vacant properties and plenty of homeless, they don’t cancel each other out anymore but it’s because homeowners are terrified of homeless people so they police neighborhoods and call that shit in. As well they should, we have fires all the time around me because of them.

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 1 points 28 minutes ago

it sounds like you and your neighborhood have chosen tent cities over crack houses, then.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

There's a difference between vacant property and affordable housing.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world -1 points 47 minutes ago (3 children)

I'm very liberal on 95% of issues, but if there is one issue I lean conservative it's homelessness. I want them to get the help they need, I support programs to help them, but I do not want to see a homeless encampment s take over public parks or other areas. I don't want the trash and safety issues near where I live and near my family.

I know this will get me dumped on my the ultra leftists here, but I didn't think my feelings are unreasonable.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 3 points 18 minutes ago

Banning homelessness doesn't give people a place to stay. It's criminalizing being poor.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

So you're liberal until it inconveniences you?

How about instead of outlawing homelessness, we created a housing system for them. Then we can talk about moving them out of parks.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

You want them to get the help they need, that's the opposite of conservative even without the support for programs.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 24 points 18 hours ago
[–] Trimatrix@lemmy.world 55 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Surely banning homeless encampments will solve the homelessness problem.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 17 points 12 hours ago
  1. Create for profit prisons tantamount to slavery
  2. Make homelessness illegal
  3. Destroy the economy and make everybody homeless
  4. PROFIT
[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Next, we should ban heart disease and cancer...

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

It's harder to work in the mines with those

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Nah, let’s just keep it the way it is and keep the poors illegal, I mean, I feel bad for people with heart disease, if they have health insurance.

[–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Title is a bit missleading. He's also setting out $3billion for homeless facilities. Better than nothing, he'll probably criminalize homelessness even more than it already is at the same time.

I doubt the $3 billion will do much to reverse the damage California has done with their prison machine, cost of living crisis, and under funded public services. Unless they address the underlying issues the problems are not going to go away.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah that $3 billion won't do squat. California spent $24 billion over a five year period and didn't track any of the money, how it was spent, or the outcomes. It's a safe bet that most of the money went to contractors charging extortionate fees for services while providing almost nothing in return, and probably quite a bit landing in the pockets of local politicians. It was basically a big scam to further enrich a bunch of greedy parasites. A few low-level idiots were charged with fraud and embezzlement of like $400k, but that doesn't even scratch the surface of corruption involved in that whole scheme.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

Funding is easy to lose down the road but laws against the homeless will sure be there for decades to come.

[–] comtact@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

California will be fine. They just need to succeed.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Ok sure.

While you're at it, allow cities to commandeer vacancies over 3 months to house the unhoused.

Or is the point to put the squeeze on folks without options or resources to move up economically without providing any solution.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or is the point to put the squeeze on folks without options or resources to move up economically without providing any solution.

Given Newsom's swing toward the hard right, I'm going with this choice...

And, fuck Newsom. 🤦‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️ 🖕

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perhaps we have a brainslug infestation in progress?

Would explain a lot actually...

My money's on more Russian influence.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

They don't want them to move up they want them to move out

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[–] andyburke@fedia.io 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yo, fuck this guy - pivoting to the right? Fuck off.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jesus , this guy looking to join Trump's team?

[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

his ex; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhFks_9faQY

his current wife; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Siebel_Newsom

Siebel Newsom was registered as a Republican until 2008, before re-registering as No Party Preference. Prior to registering as an independent voter, she accidentally registered with the far-right American Independent Party, before correcting her party to "decline to state".

I think yes, yes he is.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I came here to say this sounds like something Trump or DeSantis would do. Disappointing it is Newsome. We need leaders with solutions, not bigger prisons. (I'm not sure what I would do, but I'm also not the Gov of California hoping to be in the Dem shortlist in 2028).

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So - when did Newson have a Fetterman-like stroke?

[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

When he realized he could get a bunch of money capitulating to and sane washing hard right wingers with a podcast.

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[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

The sun beams down on a brand-new day

No more welfare tax to pay

Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light

Jobless millions whisked away

At last, we have more room to play

All systems go to kill the poor tonight

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

He has tried nothing useful and is all out of ideas.

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

we need the infrastructure for the unhoused to be housed. where does he expect the homeless to go?

Attacking the very poorest of society with all his energy. What a piece of work.

[–] Kyrrrr@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 22 hours ago

What a cunt

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Crazy how California is speed-running a transition from liberal to left to Authoritarian almost as fast as the Federal government is transitioning from conservative to right to Fascism.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

What other examples can you give? As a California resident I think your comment is bullshit.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Newsom was always a slimy neolib. He was just the lesser evil. The same story plays out constantly all over the US thanks to our broken two-right-wing-parties system, in which both parties are owned and operated by self-serving billionaires.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

If you want to get rid of homeless encampments, how about making sure people have a safe place to stay at night?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ladies and Gentlemen, our 48th President (whether we want him or not)...

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

California is a garden of Eden,

A paradise to live in or see

but believe it or not

you won't find it so hot

if you ain't got the doe ray me.

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