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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Some of the earliest websites were shock sites full of gore and horrific porn. The rest were just regular porn and chatroom degeneracy incubators. The internet was a hostile entity from the outset.

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 16 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Back in the day I just assumed everyone was lying. Or trying to get people worked up, and we called them trolls.

Learning how to ignore the trolls, and not having trust for strangers on the internet, coupled with the ability to basically not care what random people said is a lost art.

Somehow people forgot to give other the people this memo, including the "you don't fucking join social networks as your self". Anonymity makes this all work.

Eternal September newbies just didn't get it.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

One of the differences these days is that marginalized groups are having their existences threatened… and not hollow threats, but meaningful ones that have had, and continue to have, very real consequences in the form of policies, hate crimes, etc.

That is legitimate, very real violence, and it results in very understandable hostility. And then those perpetuating, supporting, and celebrating the violence pretend they are victims when people treat them like the orcs they are.

“Why are you being so divisive?” “You’re not very TOLERANT of different opinions, are you?” “Why are you so angry all the time, snowflakes?”

Violent bullies need to be put in their place, and with more than just “hostility on the internet”.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Hear, hear! I miss the days when trolling used to mean piss take. If someone is trolling, troll them back!

Somehow people forgot to give other the people this memo, including the "you don't fucking join social networks as your self". Anonymity makes this all work.

I do get into political debates, but I don't overshare my real info and I certainly don't ban anyone for disagreeing with me. I find it cringe if anyone bans someone for disagreement to maintain "mental health". Unless someone is stalking or making a calculated harrasment on the person online, sure ban or report the troll, but banning someone because the person does not have a good response shows pettiness and immaturity.

[–] AugustWest@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah the block and ban thing these days is really weird.

If someone is harassing you, then I guess it makes sense. But otherwise why do people do that?

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 17 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

No I just hate you all equally

[–] pocker_machine@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Man, this is sacred. This should be the first line in Intro to Internet.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Always have, always will.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It depends on what communities you subscribe to. You’re not going to get much hostility in a gardening sub, but you will get it in political sub. With that said, my reddit score is very polite. Always has been. My secret is being aware of my emotions and not responding when I’m being egged.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Did you even check to see if that ivy you planted is invasive? You're probably ruining your local ecosystem you piece of shit.

Also what kind of basic bitch plants basic Roma tomatoes? Garbage choice, when Purple Cherokee are so much better.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

This fits with our understanding of personality disorders, which is that they are a small percentage of our society—around 10.5 percent, according to the recent DSM-5-TR.3

Idk, I consider 10% to be pretty high. If you add in selection bias, you could get an actual majority in a community having personality disorders just because the non-jerks largely self-select themselves out.

That said, I still think the conclusions here shouldn't be taken at face value. The data was from surveys, and while I haven't read their methodology, I would certainly hesitate to accept results of a survey for something like this (and for <10k responses). I personally find I'm more confrontational online, though I hope I'm generally still way more respectful than your common jerk.

The results are certainly interesting though.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 15 points 19 hours ago

No, we're just done with things like the orange man nazis, advertising, paywalls, borders, illegal for thee but not for me billionaires.

Bit once that's fixed we'll go back to clicking on links to help prince Abu Abowah of Nigeria to settle his bank account once and for all.

[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There is no engagement mechanism like rage

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

yea, f_ck' em

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 23 hours ago

Who the fuck says I'm hostile ? Fuck you

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 11 points 21 hours ago

I go more for 'tiresomely cynical', but whatever.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

IMO online commenters are increasingly showing pathological binary thinking - the attitude that there are exactly two sides to every issue - the Right one and the Wrong one. Questioning ANY aspect of the Right one means you're obviously a hardcore supporter of EVERY aspect of the Wrong one. You're either morally and ethically pure or your character is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. To me it's a really paradoxical way of thinking about diversity and acceptance - more like we're supposed to either wholeheartedly embrace people or despise them.

It's not new, it happened a lot on Reddit, and I get a bit of that in real life too.

People are tribalist, and that sucks.

For example, if you read Lemmy comments without any real world experience, you'd think everyone who voted for Trump hates brown people and wants poor people to die. But I have family and close friends who voted for that douchebag, and they are good people, they just thought he's a better option (and they generally don't follow politics too much). And I don't blame them, Harris had a crappy campaign, basically promising the same bad policies Biden had, and Clinton before her was worse. Why should they be interested in politics if we keep getting poor options?

People aren't black and white. Yet we caricaturize them as such.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I am hostile to those that relish in cruelty to others. To those that engage in cringe culture, or bully others for just wanting to live their lives without harming anyone.

I'll accept people getting heated and passionate, but I will never accept cruelty, or worse: self-righteous cruelty. Believing someone needs to be 'punished' for some slight and so anything is justified against them.

Basically KiwiFarms and the whole lolcow industrial complex can go fuck themselves.

[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Not according to my Reddit user score and perhaps Lenny’s if there is one. Have not looked yet. So not all. I really just like the add to the discussion and help others where I can.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

fuck no we aren't.

anyone who says otherwise can fight me.

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