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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I run into this on dating apps. “Centrist” and “apolitical” are both code for “conservative.”

[–] mke@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I've heard that many men do this because they've realized, in some capacity, that outright admitting they're right-wing limits their opportunities. In my circles, I've noticed this "I'm actually a centrist/apolitical" trend is also found among popular developers and tech influencers.

Saying you're anti-woke gets you shunned and surrounded by horrible people, but saying you're just apolitical gets you the blessing and protection of self-proclaimed centrists. When you, for example, marginalize LGBT folks and get called out, countless will gather to complain about people "dragging politics into tech." Bryan Lunduke will come out of his cave and write a piece about how the trans fetish is trying to kill open source.

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Both sides bad, bit aT leAsT tRuMp iS hOnEst aBoUt iT!"

The Honesty:
"You won't have to vote anymore"
"Dictator on day one"

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[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

An older acronym for the same thing, BSABSVR

Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican.

God, growing up, I heard the equivalent of that so often from the less-lead-poisoned of my conservative community.

"Well, you don't really know what's true, and both sides lie. Really, both parties are just out for themselves. There's no difference between them."

"So you aren't voting?"

"Oh no, I'm definitely voting Republican."

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Oh yeah, "The Smaller Of Two Evils" - they said in 2016. A few years later I asked: "how did that work out for you?" - embarrassed silence. One of the best I-told-you-so-moments I ever had.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That may be the worst acronym I've ever seen.

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[–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

Another one I noticed is they say shit like "well they're saying two opposite things, so you cannot know the truth". Mother fucker, if you dig a tiny bit the truth is out there, waiting for you, but they cannot accept one side is lying (it's theirs)

[–] Ragdoll_X@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (25 children)

Funny how there's a bunch of people in the comments essentially just unironically repeating the meme: "Well this must be wrong because I believe this and I'm actually a centrist!!!"

That's the point, buddy. You're the butt of the joke. The idea that the far-left and far-right are equally bad or warrant the same amount of scrutiny and criticism is a right-wing belief.

To make the point more obvious instead of using "left" and "right" look at specific political beliefs that the far-left and far-right have:

  1. Equality across social and demographic groups vs. State-enforced racism, sexism and other kinds of bigotry

  2. Abolishment of bourgeois property and money vs. Complete privatization, oligarchy and corruption

  3. Globalization, peaceful relations and a right to live where you want vs. Complete isolationism and xenophobia

  4. Right to self-governance and no government with a monopoly on violence vs. State sanctioned violence against those considered undesirable or traitors

Hopefully I don't need to explain which one is obviously worse. To equate what the far-left and the far-right advocate for one must misrepresent the left, so both-sides-ism inherently has a right-wing slant.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have never met a "centrist" on social media who wasn't. Same with the horseshoe theory.

Let's take America: are you for democracy or against it? - "I can see both sides" - wtf? Fascist enabler, at best.

[–] TripDawkins@jlai.lu 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I will say, some far leftists have ideas that seem more libertarian on a surface level, like dismantling the state, but it's for different reasons, and generally far-lefts aren't common. What Americans consider "far left" is just advocating for common decency

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (53 children)

I prefer stethoscope theory.

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[–] Never_go_full_regard@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Both sides exclude me for holding my particular set of opinions. I'm on my side, fuck you!

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nuance is inconvenient to radicals and fundamentalists.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The US has little nuance. Your dominant parties are Fascist and Far-Right Neoliberals with some token LGBT rights.

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (32 children)

This is some crazy doublethink shit. It's clear just looking at the inconsistent interpretation from all the top-level comments that 'centrist' is a blanket term that both describes 'centrist' positions and also 'left/right radicals'. The only consistent is whether the subject is subjecting the in-group to criticism

The same user constantly harps on 'far-left' progressives complaining about democratic positions, and calls himself a centrist.

This is just standard 'out-group' gatekeeping. "If you're not with us, you're against us" shit.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's also:

"Leftist" insisting on "both sides".

-mask pull-

Russian bot

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Russian bot

So a right-wing fascist supporter.

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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'd rather have a politician who does absolutely nothing than a fascist.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As long as you're amoral and self-serving, you can only be a "right winger", whatever that means. It's only when you dispel the myth of moral relativism and believe that, yeah, some things ARE wrong (and we should avoid and condemn them, of course), that you can start becoming a person worth existing and worth listening to. And if you're not very smart nor very brave you might be a "non radical" "leftist" but hey, your heart is probably in the right place so I'm not gonna hate (too much).

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[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

On the other hand, the kneejerk of labeling every even remotely centrist viewpoint as inherently dishonest is pretty annoying. My own views lean SocDem and I've found voicing any opinion which is neither solidly left-wing or solidly right-wing, especially if it does not align with very American-centric views of the political spectrum, often elicits unpleasant reactions. Nuance is hard, I guess.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

As an anarchist. The seething hate I've received for pointing out. That the genocide in Palestine is truly an appropriate both sides thing. That it wasn't just Biden or just Harris. That it was our senators, our Congress people, and the executive branch.

That it was going to be a Republican or a Democrat that won the presidential election. And we all would definitely prefer it wasn't for the Republican. Or that if Fox News covers you without wildly editorializing or smearing you. You done fucked up. You could be forgiven for thinking I had just strangled their grandmother's from the reaction.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They’re not political, they just wantt to see common sense policies on immigration (for brown people) and crime (for brown people).

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Even if they're not a right-winger and don't claim to be a centrist, "both-sides"ing things is a waste of time, at best.

Like, when Jon Stewart came back to the Daily Show. I think it was his first show back, but it might have been his second... And his main talking point was about how both Biden and Trump were old. I know he's just a comedian on a comedy show, but it still felt like a betrayal. At the very best, it was a waste of a chance to say something that could have actually made a difference.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He pointed out that they are the oldest candidates ever to run, beating the previous record of…the same two old white guys 4 years prior. Seemed pretty germane to mention that we have a serious lack of younger and diverse representation

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I mean, they are both old, I don't think that's a perspective that should be discounted. That's not a discussion on policy or who one should vote for as much as it is the understandable concern about whether either of them would still be alive for their entire second term.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I like Jon, but TDS has done more harm than good for the left.

  1. It just normalized the Republican CRIMINAL behaviour by making fun of it and laughing, like it was no big deal

  2. It made an entire generation complacent becuase people though watching TDS and jucking along was actually doing fuck all to actually fight Republicans or help Democrats.

  3. And finally, like you said they'd frequently have both sides segments that the right loved to echo on their propaganda networks

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