Fuck all the people who saw the signs but did nothing.
This could have been avoided.
this post was submitted on 28 Oct 2023
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Yeah, some common sense gun laws would have helped. People hearing voices should not have guns in their possession.
The moment he threatened a military base, he should have been locked up and getting treatment.
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Nah, this blood, as with almost all mass shootings, is completely on the 2A people as far as I'm concerned.
Australia cleaned up their act in response to mass tragedy. Our society just isn't a society.
That would require some degree of cooperation and sacrifice. Modern Americans just don't have those qualities in us.
This is what our people have chosen to be.
yep i realized this when a room full of dead 6 year olds wasnt enough for the 2a people to realize real people are dying for their fake security. ive lost hope
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Of course he could have done that step first but instead another damaged and armed asshole imposes his demons on others and inflicts grievous pain on dozens of families before offing themself.
Yet another in a long list of isolated incidents because after trying nothing we’ve run out of ideas.
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The mass shooting was the 565th in the U.S. in 2023 and the deadliest so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive.
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The US has both a gun problem AND a mental health problem. We need more immediate access to long term healthcare.
The addition of the 988 hotline is an ok start but mental health issues are still demonized and have limited resources.
Tragic underfunding + stigma = tragedies
Everyone check in on your friends and loved ones, too.
We need universal mental health care full stop. Even if you're against universal health care in general, and I don't know why anyone would be, start with universal mental health care.
Get people assessed, get them the treatment they need. If they need to be held the rest of their lives, figure out how to make that work safely and humanely.
Even if you’re against universal health care in general, I don’t know why anyone would be
To break it down:
- Degenerates want free shit, I don't want to pay for other people's free shit; make them get a job like everyone else if they want healthcare
- Free healthcare is the first step to full blown communism
- Free healthcare means death lists made by the government
- Liberals are trying to use free healthcare in order to turn the people against us conservatives
- Our country can't afford healthcare for everyone
I feel dumber for having written in that voice, and dirty too, yuck.
And now the retort for these arguments:
- Guess what, hoss, we're all paying for it either way, and usually a ton more if it's emergency instead of preventative care.
- Is that what your foxnews/oan/newsmax has been telling you? Do you think medicare is communism? Do you think the military is communism? It might be a form of socialism, but more like a single payer system, where the providers are everyday private doctors.
- Does medicare have death lists? Do the military hospitals have death lists? Does obamacare have death lists?
- Trying to give the people what they want and need for the better health of everyone is going to politically sway voters? Then better get on that boat before it sails, there's room for everyone!
- Our country can't afford the current mess of a medical system that we already have, largely due to spending the most out of any industrialized country, yet having worse health outcomes, and for the fewest percentage of citizens even getting care in the first place.
So yes indeed, it is beyond me why in the fuck a large portion of my fellow citizens are hellbent on keeping the status quo (oh wait, it's due their thorough brainwashing that keeps them in that trance).
Right up until you switched it up that was a completely believable conservative post.
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But let's be clear here, this guy did not do these things because he had a mental health problem. Dude had a plan, a really complex one, and had extensive training in the army to carry a plan out like this , to avoid being captured and to cause as much damage as possible. If he was just suicidal, he would have just offed himself instead of 22 plus other casualties he caused. Do not blame on what he did on his mental health problem and failure to get it sorted
I blame it on society as a whole, the failure to take away his guns whenever he checked into a mental health place, and for failure to take care of his veterans.
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Let’s be real. The only way this stops is when enough republicunt politicians see their own children murdered in such incidents.
Not even then. They'd try to increase militarization of the police instead.
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Time for the usual political debate to run it's course and nothing to happen, because any change to the conditions that generate this violence run against capital interests.
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Multiple law enforcement sources told ABC News that Robert Card died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Sources told CNN that he was found dead in the woods near the town of Lisbon.
Better that than taking further life.
So he didn't want to get brains all over HIS house, but was happy with killing a bunch of other people. What a shithead.
His whole family was of a similar mindset; better put a laser focus on their activities, because you know they'll be next.
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