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[–] Raisin8659@monyet.cc 123 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, you should have checked it before you ruined all those poor students' lives.

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I was a student who wrote a text that was rejected due to this tool, do I have a case against either my institution, the professor who threw it out or OpenAI?

I am stuck with defamation but idk if that's actually defamatory in itself, as that only works if the professor or school had done due diligence that the tool is good for use, but there were already reports that it was not.

[–] experbia@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

do I have a case against either my institution, the professor who threw it out or OpenAI?

This all seems like such recent technology, I can not imagine this question being very answerable except via the long way: a courtroom. I suspect it would take someone trying in order to set precedent.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Turnitin isn’t AI technology but I assume it has similar legal ramifications and a lot of schools require teachers to have everything go through turnitin (usually by having students submit online). It just spits out a percentage so that the prof can take a closer look. Real quotes count towards the percentage displayed. Maybe with AI you’d have a bit more of a case against the company because you might claim you trusted it to be accurate or something?

[–] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Usually you check this sort of thing before releasing it...

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

And once you release the LLM detector it becomes a training tool for LLMs and those creating them to fool the detector.

It is like the battle between google search and SEO tactics, except at hyperspeed.

[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Because all LLM outputs read like middle school homework essays regardless of context

[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And an entire generation of students breathed a sigh of relief...

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

They shouldn't, their profs are now going to use whatever random crappy website comes up first when they google "AI detector."

[–] ssboomman@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Lol well that’s moderately terrifying

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have only heard about this tools, but never used one for myself... Are there any other tools like this?

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None that work from my understanding at least.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Some work ok-ish on long texts, but none are reliable enough to not produce false positives. Might be worth using it as one bit of evidence amongst others for stuff where it really matters, like some master/PhD thesis, but definitely not for Jimmies 8th grade essay about Lincoln.

[–] DarkMFG@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AI writing detectors are so shit. One of my written assignments was flagged as being written by AI even though at the time of writting it, programs like ChatGPT was not even popular or mainstream.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I think there should be a revolution in regarding how teachers structure their assignment for their students. AI is here to stay, and the education system needs to find a way to coexist with AI. In order to survive, education system need to find a way to make AI usage like calculator usage when working with math problems.

[–] outrageousmatter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Expect when you got teachers "Memorize all the formulas as it'll be on the test." and they don't provide the formulas even though in the real world, they just fucking look it up.

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