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[–] lemann@lemmy.one 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not too sure what Google was trying to achieve here - nothing is stopping anyone from creating a new channel/group/whatever for the same purpose...

The restrictions don't apply if you downloaded Telegram from outside the Play Store either

[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Telegram Android is moderated because Google has to adhere to countries' demand. Else they get banned operating in that region.

And 99% people if not 99.999999% Android users use Play Store.

[–] Cloudkid@lemmus.org 1 points 10 months ago

Not really, most authoritative countries tend to censor or throttle connection by odering their ISP. Google most did it because it could get bad PR for allowing app hosting hamas content other social medial are self regulating

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And 99% people if not 99.999999% Android users use Play Store.

This is true, but if I were interested in a channel and the government made Google block it, I would side-load Telegram and get around the block.

So this is a token effort that won't affect the people who actually want to see this content.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pavel Durov:

Every day, Telegram's moderators and AI tools remove millions of obviously harmful content from our public platform. However, tackling war-related coverage is seldom obvious.

Earlier this week, Hamas used Telegram to warn civilians in Ashkelon to leave the area ahead of their missile strikes. Would shutting down their channel help save lives β€” or would it endanger more lives?

It’s always tempting to act on emotional impulses. But such complex situations require thorough consideration that should also take into account the differences between social platforms.

Unlike other apps that algorithmically promote shocking content to unsuspecting people, on Telegram, users receive only the content to which they specifically subscribed. As such, it's unlikely that Telegram channels can be used to significantly amplify propaganda. Instead, they serve as a unique source of first-hand information for researchers, journalists, and fact-checkers.

While it would be easy for us to destroy this source of information, doing so risks exacerbating an already dire situation.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

what horse shit. He knows nobody in Ashkelon is following Hamas, he just loves the way extremists (and scammers) go on IG and Twitter and every other platform spamming "Join my telegram channel, install the app now!"

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Meh, not the first time they've blocked stuff when requested. Russia has asked them to remove stuff a handful of times and they've complied.

[–] manuel19@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They only comply when asked by google/apple because otherwise they risk getting banned on their stores.

That's why they advice you to, on android, download the app via the web. Because there, these companies have no say and the content is unrestricted.

[–] On@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't think so. You can always sideload the apk from Telegram themselves unlike iOS.

I personally cant be bothered, no auto update function as seamless as Play Store.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use neo store and it Just Worksβ„’ for me. Its one extra click when i want to install an app. The automatic updates always work. The releases usually come a few dyas later because fdroid signs the apk but other than that its perfect.

[–] Cloudkid@lemmus.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same here, but you still need to manually sync repos and click install, right?

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

No i dont think i have to. For example eternity the app im using to browse lemmy just automagically updates.

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I swear "problem parsing package" makes F-droid useless as an app store

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Never had that issue for apps downloaded from FDroid only

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

I don't understand how people can be okay with Telegram openly supporting the al-Qasam Brigades.