That's our secret Raid, we don't want to win.
this post was submitted on 05 Apr 2025
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You can win. You can lose.
You can go poke around the garden with a rake on a sunny morning to discover what spring has wrought, also. Maybe have some friends over later?
Why the f— would an employee be invested in the corporation "winning"? Unless he sees LinkedIn as a co-op and actively works on distributing profits equally to all member workers, that there is just management drivel.
I worked at a couple of startups and every single one was a success with good exit strategies, and we had good work-life balance. His view is factually false.
Fuck off, Reid.
“The people that think that’s toxic don’t understand the start-up game, and they’re just wrong,” he said. “The game is intense. And by the way, if you don’t do that, eventually, you’re out of a job.
For those who disagree, working at a startup is a choice, Hoffman insisted.
But the reward on the other side is second to none; the 100 or so first employees at LinkedIn don’t need to work anymore, he added. Microsoft purchased the professional networking platform for $26.2 billion in 2016.
That's good for the 100 or so first employees at LinkedIn, but I'm certain that the VAST majority of employees who bust their ass trying to help get a start-up off the ground don't have anywhere near that end result. I'm sure it isn't worth it for 99% of employees of start-ups.
But if you want to take on the challenge, hoping that maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones, go for it, but don't fucking drag a spouse/significant other, or children into that nightmare. If you want to commit your entire life to a start-up, then fucking commit.
This is what happens when you survey jackpot winners about the value of lottery tickets.
That's called Survivorship Bias, and it's a fallacy! I would expect nothing less than irrationality from a billionaire that got lucky and thinks his hard work in particular was what got him where he is.
It's a fucking lotto. Lucky people always think they're smarter or more hardworking than others.
It's like listening to successful YouTubers say all you gotta do is commit to the grind and you'll achieve your dreams. Even focusing solely on the numbers, it's literally dishonest.
might want to look at your linkedin site, what it has turned into
It's also a good sign you're not mentally ill.
I mean he's definitely an asshole for many reasons, but the context is "if you are a start-up entrepreneur"
No, he's still an idiot, and he'll realize it when he dies, if he's lucky.
Like most CEOs that push this toxic shit, hope it's soon.
I'm not, and he's still wrong.
What a loser
Well I say seeking to remove my work-life balance means he's not committing to not wanting to taste lead at high velocity using the base of his skull as a mouth.
Giving up work-life balance in the pursuit of "winning" leads to a Pyrrhic victory, assuming that you even actually win.
Cool, he might consider fucking off and dying.
This guy reeks of chode energy.
Winning what, more profits for you instead of me? Get fucked, loser.
It’s weird that it’s always losers that are the ones talking about winning.
Maybe if workers actually Won by doing their jobs, this would be even close to approaching accurate.
I work to live. I dont live to work.
I am reminded of an episode of Friends. I forget what else was happening in the episode, but the guys and the girls are separated. The three girls are in Monica's apartment with a leg waxing kit they have apparently bought ALL THE WAY into the marketing for, because they keep saying shit like "we gotta do this if we wanna be goddesses."
Being excessively steeped in messaging is a great way to give yourself idea cancer.
"Winning." What are you "winning" if you work yourself into fatigue and start making errors and mistakes?
Fuck winning.
Be the best, climb the ladder
Do it better, higher, faster
I refuse to participate
If I go up it will be slow
I’m bringing everyone I know
Stopping on the sixth or seventh rung
a reality check for entrepreneurs
Yes. You gotta grind like hell to start a seriously profitable company. Had drinks at our company's open house with a client who owned 3 or 4 small construction related businesses.
"You have to bust your ass for about 2-2.5 years to get a business rolling, then it mostly takes care of itself."
I’m proud of being a loser in this case.
Man, Reid looking rough nowadays. If that’s what winning is, I don’t want it.
Also FYI, I’ll leave my original response up, but the title of this particular post is clickbait. Reid specifies a very particular instance where he thinks this applies.
"Winning" presumably means achieving something as worthwhile as inflicting LinkedIn on the world. I'm good thanks.
LinkedIn == blessed 😍
Not a good dedicated wage slave.
You committed to paying?
The quote is right though I suspect he means something very incorrect by it. If your work is hostile to your life, you're losing; ditch that job immediately.
So done with this bullshit.
"...me my money."