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[–] BEEKAYRANDEE@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Genuine question: If the network is decentralized, how are they able to determine the amount of users on the system?

The article mentions opt-in usage reporting, but that would only indicate there's around 115 million users actively reporting that they're using it, right?

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

It's not the users reporting it, but the different homeservers, I think, and if memory serves it is connected to some other relevant feature that operators enable

[–] klintelmeh@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago
[–] Untold1707@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Correct. Home server operators need to opt-in to reporting (it’s off by default). On top of that, users on home servers who have opted in to reporting also need to opt in to analytics. So there are potentially many more users than are being reported to the matrix org.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Matrix has always been unusably laggy for me. Like, it takes longer to send a message over Matrix than over Lemmy. That's the biggest barrier to entry.

[–] klintelmeh@feddit.de 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can I ask you what instance did you use?

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I do not recall. It was a while ago.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not Matrix, the server you were using.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Matrix servers get laggy easily

[–] mamus@fosstodon.org 1 points 10 months ago

@possiblylinux127 @pkulak sad to read that. You may give it another go. The server of matrix.org is fast and with element-x on mobile there's no lag whatsoever.
You may give it another go if you want, it's still growing every month and year.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago

There's a reason even the Matrix organization tells you to choose a different server than matrix.org if you can.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A few seconds? Try a couple of minutes! You can't smooth over that client-side.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

I have not had this issue on Matrix.org ever since I had an account, I don't use it much but I use it occasionally and yeah, no issues. This seems to be an instance related problem rather than a matrix one

[–] OnU@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I've been enjoying matrix so much over the last couple of years. Its so nice having all the choices of clients and for me the best part, all those bridges. Everybody I have a conversation with, over the fact that i dont care where they contact me because I will just get it on the same client anyway, are always envious. (It's the subtle of flexes :D) I hope we will get client side bridging one day. Ahh and of course p2p matrix. There are just so many awesome ideas and prototypes flying around matrix :)

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

Fake it 'till you make it, I guess?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no way that is true. For context that would be 3 times the population of California

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Well, it depends on how they count it.

I myself doubt it too, I think it may be the number of all registrated users from servers that have stats reporting enabled, but what do I know