Crazy. Today at work I accidentally pressed the intercom button on my phone and approximately 600 people unexpectedly heard a really loud "BOOP" with no message or followup whatsoever, all at the same time, and it made me think of this.
this post was submitted on 02 Apr 2025
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10/10 I love this shit
It's sad that something like it can never happen again because of how everything is streamed/torrented now.
One could argue that the lack of a shared, verifiable experience like radio or live TV has contributed to the breakdown of social cohesion. Everyone can see what they want, whenever they want, instead of seeing what everyone else sees.
I'm not saying your wrong, or really trying to make an argument, but the book "bowling alone" came out in 2000 and it was describing the fall into social isolation and alienation before social media or the balkanization of news and entertainment. To go further back Marx was talking about the alienation of labor as far back as 1844. Like capitalism is killing us, the increased view/reach of technology is just making it obvious.
This is ancillary but perhaps contributing to it due to a lack of shared context. (For example, if someone asks me about a funny commercial I won't have seen it and can't relate.)
I'm thinking more like the zeitgeist has fractured.
I love how Brian Brushwood described it. It was either an inside job from someone at the station, or a very impressive feat of radio hacking, and they had to plan out the costume and the corrugated sheet on a pivot behind him to simulate the "CG" backgrounds, "But it's as if zero thought went into what he was actually going to say." He hums the Clutch Cargo theme tune, makes fun of Max Headroom as spokesman of New Coke by holding up a Pepsi can, and throws a little bit of shade at WGN and Chuck Swirsky.
The halcyon days of the 1980's when a broadcast intrusion like this was basically a harmless juvenile prank.
Look at how phone phreaking was treated in the 70s, or codes for getting long distance on BBS. The modern justice system would have wanted to make someone like Joybubbles an example.
My buddy Julian was linked up with our city's biggest phreakers. Dude disappeared and word is he did 10 years. This was in the 80's
iirc terrorism charges were levied against an activist that threw glitter at police during a demo for climate activists some years ago
aw. back when we could still be saved.
Would having his bare ass spanked have made it easier to find him?
They could do an ass line up to actually identify him if they has a suspect.
Human ass cheek resonance is unique, like fingerprints. There was no database at the time though.
There's one now?? 😳
Why don't you send me a recording and I'll let you know
Ok, but this better be for Science!
Please report to your local precinct for spanking fingerprint video session.
Don't worry, the video is stored in amazon using military grade aes 256 encryption. The encryption key is located in the same s3 bucket.
That’s how the the dj for kneecap got unmasked, not the spanking but his bare ass
That title makes less sense than the event itself, which is famously weird. I can't imagine anything other than that being on purpose.
That shit was legend. I mean, we were still using BBSs and phone phreaking. Here's this ubernerd that BROKE INTO the television signal. We bow before you, kinky ubernerd.
The power required to do it is impressive to say the least.
I guess the other option would be that the signal was created with very close proximity to the broadcast tower requiring much less power, but they probably had a limited area to search.
To me it almost reads like this was a "we technically can, let's test it out!" And it worked.
You have no idea how much of that goes into broadcast engineering
The latter is essentially how they did it.
Basically, the TV station didn’t run the high powered broadcast towers directly. They simply beamed the signal over to the tower (using directional antennas) to get amplified. All the hacker did was overpower that (relatively low power) directional antenna signal. It would require being in closer proximity to the tower, but it would at least allow you to get the signal amplified using existing infrastructure, instead of building your own amplifier.
The power required to do it is impressive to say the least.
That's not how the attack worked. He didn't drown out the tower. He simply overrode the the studio-to-transmitter link signal. The studios used microwave line-of-sight transmitters to communicate a signal from the studio to the tower. All the attacker had to do was override that signal. That signal was 50W max. You could override it with maybe 200W as long as you were also in line-of-sight of the microwave receiver. Probably less since some microwave trasmitters were as weak as 1W. They don't need to be strong since they are line-of-sight directional transmitters. So, that's not particularly impressive.
Although, having to get a transmitter within line-of-sight makes the overall feat more impressive.
It would require as much, or more, power to drown out a TV broadcast signal at the source. I believe many of the old towers were 200kW-1000kW so it would have taken one hell of a pirate signal if interfering close to the main source. However, RF follows the same principle as light using the inverse square law so the further you get from the primary transmitter, the signal quickly becomes exponentially weaker for any receiver.
If you had a TV transmitter on a small hill that is a fair distance away from the target audience, like many were, splitting the distance with a directional antenna wouldn't require nearly as much power from the pirate signal to overtake the original transmission.
If I wanted, I could interfere with ham radio signals with as little as a watt of power (in my immediate local area) even though people might be communicating through a ham radio repeater that transmits at a couple of thousand watts that is many miles away. (It's actually a permitted emergency technique to "break into" active conversations. Actually, other ham radio operators are familiar with what interference sounds like, even for signals that can't fully overtake a transmission. It's customary to stop the conversation if detected and wait for the "break".)
Yeah, growing up there were people with illegal high power CB radios that would bleed into the TV signals near me. And I don't even know if they're close to the same band.
Doesn't need to be in the same band due to harmonics and power. If you keep splitting the 11m band (CB) into "fractional-frequencies", you are going to get a cross-over somehow, especially if the fundamental is at super-high power.
Using a piano as an example, if you play a C2 at 62.41Hz it still expresses harmonics at C3 (130.81Hz), G3 (196.22Hz) and C4 (261.63Hz) and at least in theory, to infinity and beyond! Each harmonic away from the fundamental will be expressed in decreasing levels of power. (It's like 1/3 power per, I think. The proper math is out there though.)
Didn't they just overpower the radio link to the broadcast site, a much lower power signal than the broadcast signal itself?
(sorry to add even more; I just made another comment about this and I am familiar with most of these concepts.)
Actually, that would be much easier. TV stations back then mostly received shows via satellite dish. Pointing a low power directional antenna directly at the dish's LNB would work great. Satellite transmissions weren't strong and were rarely encrypted back then so that would theoretically be super easy if you knew your RF and deep RF knowledge was much more common place +30 years ago.
I am not sure if they used point-to-point microwave antennas back then for TV, but it would be the same concept. (Microwave antennas are typically the round, cylindrical looking, covered antennas we see all over the place today.)
FWIW, it mentions in the link that the method was via overpowering the analogue microwave link between the station and the broadcast transmitter
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I wonder why they still haven't come forward, given that there would be no legal consequences for doing so in 2025.
My guess is that they died before the statute of limitations expired. This happened in the 80’s, and there’s plenty of time between then and now for something to have happened to them.
Maybe. But if I had to guess, it's also not really easy to prove, if you didn't also record some evidence back then.
"It was Bob and me" isn't really a good story, if you can't really show for it. Also, remembering the details on how it was done will also be spotty at best
I'd heard a story years ago that it was an autistic brother of a hacker/phreak in the local Chicago scene actually in the footage; with the hack being carried out by said brother. Another station had their broadcast interrupted that same night, though only audio came through.
That would go a long way towards explaining why they've kept the secret. Involving your bro would be a bad look, or maybe it was a telecom engineer and they're worried about their pension, or they died. Such a cool moment in time that can't really happen again and only a handful of people can possibly know the truth.
That would probably ruin the novelty of their onlyfans monetization strategy
Are people usually identified by spankings?
Goatse was identified by his butthole picture
This is the owner of the famous asshole.
Kirk.
He looks exactly like what I thought he'd look like
I kind of preferred not putting a face on goatse.
Kind of kept the humanity out of it. Now it’s real.
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Some. Use on Reddit thinks he knows who did it but he couldn’t get him to admit it. It was a long detailed story about an autistic guy that was a brother of a friend.
The Reddit story was very convincing at the time. They later did walk it back, something like they believed the brother when they denied doing it.
I don’t know how conspiratorial we should be, because while the FCC doesn’t play around I think at this point everyone would be more amused and curious if the perpetrator came forward.
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