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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No.

Source: my desire to be unalive because life is pain, and burger is mmmmmm

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

If you had ever been fat and then lost a lot of weight, you would know that the physical feeling is night and day different. The feeling of being fat is exhausting, your joints hurt, you're tired all the time, it's truly awful. You'd wonder how you could stand being fat. At least that's how it felt for me.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The constant limiting yourself in what you eat and how much you eat, never really feeling full, always having to savour every tiny bite of what you love to eat because there's only a small amount...Yeah that's not really happiness either. I lost 75lbs five years ago, and this is still how i feel. Sure, my energy levels are higher and I'm less exhausted, but I'm 100% not any happier than i was back then. It's just other stuff that's sucking the joy out of life now.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Be unhappy with an unhealthy body with a huge gut, saggy arse and man boobs or be unhappy with an attractive healthy body.

If I'm going to be unhappy either way, I still know which I'd choose.

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[–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I don't want to assume, but it seems to me that you haven't really changed your relationship to food on an emotional level. I lost a lot of weight and don't feel like you at all, because I changed my relationship to food to one of fuel instead of comfort or fun. It's not easy, but it's important. And it's not like I hate food or anything, I still like food obviously, but when I'm filling up my plate for dinner I put enough on it to feed my actual physical hunger, not some emotional hunger for dopamine. The fact that it's delicious is an added bonus, not the main event.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It sounds like you expect some one thing to make you "happy". That isn't a thing. Also, it sounds like your story is similar to mine except your perspective is different. Remember, it's not normal as far as human history goes to have extremely calorie dense food everywhere all the time in large portions. It's also not normal to be able to easily get through a day without doing anything physical, even taking under 1000 steps the whole day. So while you see it as some miserable extra steps and responsibilities you have to take that make you unhappy, I see it as a responsibility I have to take upon myself because society as a whole is driven by excess. I don't have to get "extra" exercise or watch what I eat because life is unfair. I have to do it because humans, particularly Americans, have no sense of limitations anymore. We're batshit insane. We've forgotten that even having access to 2000 calories a day is a luxury, not a prison.

No one thing will make you happy, but I know for sure I was more depressed every day feeling like that, also knowing that literally no one I ever found attractive would feel the same about me. Once I lost all the weight, getting dates was much easier and I even got myself into long term relationships for the first time. I actually feel like I was cheated in life because no one ever told me I was fat. I 100% was. I was treated as "normal" and at the same time I think people pitied and avoided me subconsciously

[–] flerp@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Savouring bites shouldn't be something you feel like you "have" to do but should be something you enjoy to do. Mindful eating. Small bites, chew thoroughly, enjoy all of the flavors. If you eat slower and chew your food properly it has many benefits: improved digestion, improved nutrient intake, better enjoyment of all of the diverse flavors, you notice that you are actually full when you get full and not after you have eaten far more than your body needs.

This is not a chore, it makes eating far more enjoyable. And if you eat when you're actually hungry instead of just when you habitually eat, the food tastes even better. You make these things sound bad, but they are one of my favorite parts of life. I love eating more than I used to and I eat far less than I used to.

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[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We aint on tiktok you can say dead here

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If we are arguing that way then you don't need to be skinny to be healthy. There is a middle ground between skinny and overweight.

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 24 points 10 months ago

Immediate vs future happiness

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

get regular exercise and be both. Literally like 40% of my motivation for staying active is that it lets me eat more.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

you cannot exercise your way out of a bad diet is the general advise. a snickers bar is 73 calories and to burn 100 calories you have to run a 10 minute mile.

you simply can accumulate calories at a way faster rate than you can reasonably exercise.

[–] matter@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Right, so going for a run 5x a week equals an extra Snickers a day, that's pretty significant

[–] ledtasso@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's a good point but it's also important to note that a Snickers bar has much less nutritional value than the cheeseburger shown in the original image. So if you're training for a marathon or something, you can totally get away with a cheeseburger every night, but not the equivalent amount of snickers (you will feel like absolute shite)

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i think that's technically true but reductive, you will continue to burn calories at a higher rate for quite a while after any reasonably strenous exercise and as you get stronger it becomes easier to burn more calories, thus letting you increase your daily calorie budget.

I'm not saying that five minutes of cardio will suddenly let you eat 5 cakes, but have you seen the diets that weightlifters keep? with a lot of muscle and frequent heavy exercise you can burn such an amount of calories every day that eating 3 pizzas is a good starter course.

Also we aren't talking about a bad diet, just eating a bit too much. Of course exercise isn't going to fix you eating snickers instead of vegetables but it will absolutely fix eating one too many burgers.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's it. If you're bulking eating 3k calories a day is normal. The more muscle you get, the more you have to eat to maintain your form(or eat less to effectively burn body fat). Of course, you want to eat healthy, meaning that eating 3 burgers a day is probably not the best thing, since it has a lot of fat in it.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

fat isn't unhealthy, it's just calorie dense. The only issue i see with eating 3 burgers per day is that you should be eating a varied diet to make sure you don't get too little or too much of any one nutrient or potential toxin. Plus burgers have too much meat compared to the amount of greens..

and honestly 3 burgers per day is a completely normal amount of food, too little if anything. Even with fries that's about as much as most people would eat in a day.

but really "eating healthy" is basically just a matter of not eating a significant amount of sugar and getting as much greens as possible, making sure 90% of what you consume is home-made (even if that includes quite a lot of pastries) is pretty fool-proof. Just make your own burgers and add some more lettuce.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Wait, what? No one told me about that.

[–] FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Skinny = long happy Nomnomnom = short happy

[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Continuous nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnoms… = longer happy

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

You can always lose weight but you can never get back a missed hamburger.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I alternate back-and-forth, so that I'm never truly skinny, nor truly happy.

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago

In Las Vegas, we have a local chain called SkinnyFats that has two menus, a "healthy" menu and a "happy" menu

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Or maybe just stop overeating? It's way less about what you eat than it is about how much you eat.

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[–] aes@programming.dev 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Switch to things with more protein, it keeps you sated with fewer calories. Count calories, not too torture yourself, but to train yourself to make better choices. Do a few simple strength exercises every day, to build muscle and to stay motivated.

Source: down ~20kg from top weight

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[–] htrayl@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Album@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

I lost 35lbs eating burgers and pizza. These things aren't mutually exclusive. The fact that people think they are is a testament to how poor health education is.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

My heart is full

of cholesterol

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

Always go for happy, skinny is just a bonus

[–] Spider89@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

I'm too skinny. (96-98LBS at 19Y/5'4")

Can I have Happy?

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Name one ingredient in that burger that is unhealthy. Bread? Meat? Cheese? Greens? Half a teaspoon of ketchup? Just check your caloric intake and eat whatever the heck you want.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That amount of downvotes you're getting because fat people hate hearing that "yes, you could just eat a bit less!"

Your bodyweight is 100% correlated to the amount of calories you consume/burn. Eat less calories than your base metabolic rate and you could lose weight on a diet of pizza and just sitting on the sofa all day!

[–] DontEatCrap@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Bread - processed crap with minimal micronutrients, preservatives and coloring agent (for nice white flour /s)

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[–] Cfords@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

2 won't do ...lol

[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of the dog learning what fat is.

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