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Hashtags do not replace groups.

No one moderates them. They’re easy to hijack and spam. And there’s simply no permanence to them.

Which is why, if you actually want to discuss something, it’s better to tag a group. For example, if you want to be part of an actual PC gaming community on the Fediverse, it’s better to tag @pcgaming@lemmy.ca than #pcgaming.

This needs to be common knowledge because people new to the Fediverse do not know about groups. Hell, I’d say people who have had Mastodon accounts for years still don’t know. And that’s a shame.

@fediverse@lemmy.world

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Communities are for Lemmy and hashtags are for Mastodon.

They each make sense in their proper context.

[–] atomicpoet@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (20 children)

What if I told you that you can use Lemmy with Mastodon right now—and that many people do?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have heard of the opposite. Mastodon users can see and comment on lemmy posts, but i have yet to discover how to view mastodon post from lemmy.

If it is indeed possible can you or anyone elaborate how to?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The mastadon user posting the thing needs to tag the Lemmy community in their post and then it will show up like any other post on Lemmy. You wouldn't even know it's from Mastodon unless they said so in the post.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago

You can usually tell it's from Mastodon because it's got a couple dozen hashtags scattered throughout the post and a dozen more users and communities tagged.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You have misread their comment and understood it backwards. AP's saying people on Mastodon are engaging in Lemmy discussions.

There is no way to follow Mastodon users from Lemmy. Lemmy simply does not work that way.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Hrmmm... at a (strong) guess, PieFed does. You can follow anything, like a community, post, comment (even ones you do not own), or a user account. You would get Notifications triggered every time they post something, I believe. Including comments as well as posts, but again just a guess.

It's a great way to follow a low-volume something or other! At higher volumes... it can get a bit much, but at least the tools are available, and you can always wipe all Notifications at once if need be.

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The tricky part is, the group-supporting fediverse software and the microblogging software need to improve how they interact for this to be as good as it could be.

Right now Mastodon barely supports group users/actors/accounts, however they're called, translating stuff from Lemmy's format in a rather clunky way. Meanwhile Lemmy also has to roughly translate Mastodon's format to its own, working pretty well all things considering, but leaving clear artifacts (subject line/first line repeating, community mention remaining shown, etc.).

[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 5 points 1 week ago

@ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world With time, that stuff will be ironed out. Group support is in Mastodon’s road map. Now Mastodon develops very slowly, so take that with a grain of salt. But the point is that groups are coming to Mastodon… eventually.

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sharkey seems to have good lemmy support

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Really? It doesn't seem much different to mastodon.

[–] BenDoubleU@lemmy.radio 11 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I’m all for it as long as people know that posting on something like mastodon and tagging a lemmy community will then make a post in that community. Could make for great discussions, but could also lead to a lot of posts/spam in the communities.

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[–] Coolmccool@mastodon.au 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse TBH I think a lot of people (including me) have a very sketchy idea of how the different bits of the Fediverse link together... I'm still a bit vague about how my #Mastodon and #Pixelfed accounts could work better together.

There's a lot of *assumed knowledge* about the #Fediverse ... and people don't want to ask 'stupid' questions because they don't want to 'look stupid'. There needs to be easily accessible and explicit step by step instructions *to get people started*.

Where could I find a group about #ux or #humancentredesign for example? Or #photography ?

[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 6 points 1 week ago (11 children)

@Coolmccool@mastodon.au @fediverse@lemmy.world The best way to explain #Pixelfed is that it’s an Instagram-like front-end for the Fediverse. But practically speaking, it’s Mastodon if pictures were a requirement on Mastodon. You interact with a Pixelfed account from Mastodon in much the same way you interact with another Mastodon account, or how you’re interacting with my Akkoma account right now. It really is just like email.

Regarding group topics, the best way to find them is to do a search on a place like lemmy.world or lemmy.ca. For example, uiux@programming.dev is one. And you can find the URL here:

https://programming.dev/c/uiux

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[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have literally zero interest in cross pollination between social media types.
They each have their own interfaces that work best for their communities and content types. You're always missing something trying to access one from another.

[–] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you have zero interest in the fundamental architecture of the fediverse, why are you in this community? You're probably interacting with "cross pollination" way more than you realize.

[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I follow topics and have discussions on Lemmy, keep up with individuals and announcements on Mastodon, and look at cool photos on Pixelfed.
None of my accounts are following anything on other systems.

The reason I'm in this community is for discussions like this. We disagree on the nature of using he fundamental architecture of the Fediverse.
I think using Mastodon to engage in Lemmy discussions is extremely awkward without the threading to keep it all organized. Equally, Lemmy is designed specifically around following communities. Following individuals on Mastodon breaks the pattern of the feed. And good luck following either Mastodon accounts or Lemmy groups in Pixelfed.

However, having multiple decentralized servers within each system, is plenty of reason for the Fediverse to be better than a centralized platform. They don't Need to interoperate with each other.

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[–] atomicpoet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

For real. He replied to my Akkoma post, which tagged this Lemmy group. 😆

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[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really hope there's better handling of Mastodon user comments on Lemmy, because all the comments tagging other users are an absolute mess. Are Mastodon users doing this on purpose or is their client tagging the users automatically?

If this were to become more common I'd probably just think about find out a way to block Mastodon users so I don't see their comments.

[–] tofuwabohu@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

In Mastodon you need to mention the person you reply to or they won't get mentioned. Clients usually set them automatically.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Also hashtags don't help federation at all, groups/communities will "boost" the post so it federates to all the followers

[–] alsternerd@social.alster.space 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

@atomicpoet
Also it whould be neat to somehow see from the handle itself if it's a group or not. It's the case with the classic å.gup.pe, but I can't derive that from lemmy.ca without having to look it up.

I also find it father difficult to find groups, because the default ActivityPub-Search doesn't work that way and groups are just special users.
That's why I like a.gup.pe, it sounds a bit like Gruppe in german. Which doesn't help internationally, something like gro.up oder a subdomain including group whould be helpful and make the seqrch for groups easier, because then it's part of the name.

@fediverse

[–] mapto@masto.bg 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] LibertyForward1@beige.party 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse Wait.. is *that* how it works to follow a lemmy .. whatever the equivalent is of a subreddit .. group? anyway, you just follow @groupname@instancename? How did I not understand this before?

[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

@LibertyForward1 @fediverse Not only can you follow, you can post to a Lemmy community from Mastodon by mentioning the Lemmy community. In fact, you just mentioned a Lemmy community, so your using Lemmy right now—but from you’re perspective, it looks like Mastodon.

[–] LibertyForward1@beige.party 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] TisI@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

Hello from Lemmy, I can see you. Can you see me?

[–] Mel@lemmy.melissandre.dev 3 points 1 week ago

New lemmy's instance here. Hello.
I come on your topic to test. Might as well enjoy of your topic.

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org I think mastodon should implement a post-to-community type thing like mbin has for microblog posts. It (and all other fedi. platforms, really) also needs like a tutorial or smth to show how to actually use the federation features of the platform.

[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@unknown1234_5@kbin.earth @pcgaming@lemmy.ca @fediverse@lemmy.world Already on the road map.

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[–] m3t00@mstdn.party 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

@m3t00 @fediverse Give me more context and what you specifically mean.

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