The rare "very stable genius", spotted writing all-caps in it's natural habitat.
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Jokes on him. What he sees as German conservatives is mostly in line with US Democrats. The German version of the Republicans are the AfD, the Nazi party.
I was under the impression the CDU had worse social stances than dems except on immigration where they shockingly actually act like Christians are supposed to (that part may have just been a merkel thing)
Merkel time is over. The current CDU leader is a man owned by the chemical industry. The "C" is ancient history. The whole political spectrum in the US is so far right, a Republican party would end up under the feds scrutiny here, just like the AfD is.
Actually, a German "Republican party" was declared illegal a few years ago, and you need shitloads of evidence to do something like in Germany.
Reminder that even the lutheran-calvinist church (aka the protestant chruch) and catholic church spoke out against the CDU/CSU for their migration and refugee stands. The CDU/CSU responded by calling both "Left-Green siffed" and many quit the church
The current CDU leader is a man owned by the chemical industry.
Lol and somebody tried to argue with me that germany is not an oligarchy and there are no clans
I wonder how energy intensive chemical industry really is and what their main energy input would be
Yeah, "so many years", a whole 3.25 of them. Before that was Merkels forth cabinet, in the same party with the same coalition we're likely to see again now.
Yea people think he means CDU but given he is literally a fascist demented grandpa it is more likely that he is either confusing CDU with AfD or thinks that AfD has won because of all the ruckus going on
Dude does not understand how german elections work lmao. Nobody won that election, the conservatives got 28% of the vote. There will be at least a 3 party coalition and things could become pretty complicated.
I'm not usually one to agree with trump, but doubling your representation in a single election is a win. An incredibly concerning win, in this case. It bodes poorly.
The "conservative party" is the CDU/CSU, and even though they won, they just had their second worst result since the 1950s.
So while they lost power the far right AfD gained power which is a lot worse
thank you, this makes me feel better
It shouldn't. They did so poorly because 10% of the German electorate shifted even farther to the far right AfD, and another 10% had already done so in previous elections.
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While in this case, Trump clearly speaks about the party with the largest share, i.e. CxU — it would too make sense for Trump to call Afd "conservatives." Because that's the fun equivalence US Republicans use, as even they don't seem to want to identify as "regressives".
It's a win for the party, but a win for the party is different from winning the election.
In the last Australian federal election, the Greens quadrupled their number of seats. It was absolutely a huge win for the Greens. But going from 0.7% of seats to 2.6% cannot mean you "won" the election. (Also...wow...that shows just how gross single winner elections are. Even with preferential voting. When a party that consistently gets over 10% of the votes is able to win less than 3% of seats and call that a huge win. Proportional systems like Germany's MMP are amazing!)
Whether you want to say the CDU/CSU "won" the German election, IMO, depends less on how their vote changed relative to the last election, and more on whether you want to say the party that ends up selecting the Chancellor "won" an election, even if they need to go into a three party coalition. My personal take is that yes, it's not unreasonable to say they won.
The (almost extremist) "conservatives" gained like 3 percent points or something since the last election. Plus, they have been in the government for like 80% of the time since WW2. Trump is soooo anti establishment but these guys ARE the most establishment anyone in Germany could be. They are not the solution to people’s problems, they are the ones who caused many of the problems in Germany.
Germans are very much like Americans, they like to Moralize and act like they got their shit together, and pretend like they’re all enlightened, but their people are just as fucked up as Americans sometimes.
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AfD (Conservatives Trump was looking for) doubled their vote, but won't be part of government. Party with the most votes went from 23% to 28%.
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This cannot be said enough to Anglosphericals, even the well-informed ones sometimes don't get it. Under proportional representation, you almost never "win" an election and that's the point.
It's a classic misunderstanding between two political different cultures. I remember once a German state election, I think it was Baden-Würtemberg, where the first-placed party had no friends so the parties #2 and #3 (the Greens were one) formed the government. The Anglo press just did not get it - a "the losers ganged up on the winners"! How could Germans possibly accept this travesty of democracy??! But the second and third parties agreed on more things, and between them they had far more votes! It was arguably more democratic than the outcome of a classic first-past-the-post election in Britain or the USA.
This silly obsession with winners and losers was why the Tories dominated 20th-century British politics even though Labour and the Liberals often had more support between them. It's arguably what sunk the UK LibDems' referendum on electoral reform under the Cameron government. And then a few years later Brexit got 51.9%, which for Brits was obviously a resounding victory so most of the the other 48.1% didn't even complain about literally losing their EU citizenship. The winner-loser culture goes deep for Anglos but it doesn't always serve them well.
Since FDP and BSW didnt make it into the parliament SPD, CDU should be able to form a coalition. Only Problem, the SPD Chancellor candidate announced they dont want to coalate with the CDU. We may see the same Situation as in Austria.
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GOOD TO SEE HE HAS NOW PICKED UP OLD MAN CAPS LOCK SYNDROME
I just assumed he was yelling it over the sound of a helicopter as usual
Not really new, he's always done it often
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Who is the “GENTLEMAN NAMED DONALD J. TRUMP”? I know of no such person. I know who Donald J. Trump is, but he is most certainly not a “gentleman” by any definition I’m familiar with.
The AfD is only second strongest party. Also, no matter what anyone says. The real winners are the leftist party who got 8.7%.
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Tell me you dont know shit about the german voting system without telling me you dont know shit about the german voting system.
Do not discredit our supreme leader. His knowledge of the German voting system is equally refined as all his other knowledge.
Notice how Trump considers America to be under him.
Not just in this text, but in all of his actions as well. He has no intention to be a responsible leader, he intends to rule, and to do so with impunity.
"L'État, c'est moi!"
Unfortunately, our projected future chancellor is very similar to Trump in certain aspects, especially rhetorics and spitting bullshit, then being utterly incompetent when asked specifics.
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Trump you arent conservative Also you clearly dont understand how we do governments over here
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Americans don't know any better, tbh
Like every other narcissist, he makes good news from others all about him. He's so insecure, he can't be anywhere but in the spotlight.
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What are the typical beliefs of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) / Christian Social Union (CSU)?
You can find their agenda for this election on their website.
Social market capitalism is a core tenet. That means free enterprise and corporation friendly policies, while also taking care of the unemployed, health insurance, and so on. Traditional family values and German national identity are important. Anti drug, but pro choice. Strict on crime and public order. Belief in meritocracy, compromise, and pragmatism. Sceptical regarding immigration. Pro EU, pro NATO, pro USA.
Similar to a center right democrat in the US, except with more conservative ideas regarding immigration and multiculturalism.
Ironically, independence from the US:
https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-friedrich-merz-urges-independence-from-us/live-71700729
I'm not German and don't have any special insight into German politics, but until someone that knows better comes along I can at least offer that it's Angela Merkel's old party. Unless something has shifted drastically, it's the Germany we've known for most of the past twenty years
Something has shifted quite dramatically. Under Merz, the C*U has shifted to the right, almost copying the extreme right AfD's program in certain points, became very populist. A standstill like during the Merkel years could be a best case scenario atm.
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True, but Merz is far More right than Merkel was, especially, when speaking of women and immigrants.
Also Merkel got a lot more percent oft the public vote (that counts here - wie do not habe the winner takes it all). Merz got the second worst result of his Party in history and will need to make a coalition with maybe even 2 other parties.
Merz re-iterating the "no AfD coalition" statement has reassured me somewhat. If they need two other parties that's probably even better, because it doesn't seem like any of the other major players would tolerate being in an AfD coalition
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