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Really annoying!
They also sell that number, all your chat logs, voice calls and media to AI training companies.
Dont be a loser, dont use discord.
this post was submitted on 19 Feb 2025
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Source? The only record of data being sold I remember is some 3rd-party that scraped public servers.
Per their privacy policy they collect
Content you create. This includes any content that you upload to the service. For example, you may write messages or posts (including drafts), send voice messages, create custom emojis, or post other content that you create with features that we develop. You may also upload and share files through the services.
Thats what they collect(so not the calls apparently my bad). In regards to how they use it, they mention advertisement stuff and the usual vague language of "improve our services" and "personalization". The AI stuff is supposedly opt in, but they collect the data and they are subject to US subpoenas so all bets are off anyways.
Of course they collect content you upload. How else do you think they maintain a chat history so people can see what was said while they were offline?
I see nothing in the privacy policy that says they can sell the data. There is, however, things that allow them to share the data with 3rd parties, including bot developers. Having developed Discord bots, I can tell you that you can get pretty unrestricted access (with the server owners cooperation) until you have been added to a bunch of servers (at which point you need Discord approval to get things like message content)
Policy doesn't count for anything. So what if they claim they won't sell data about you? They still can, and companies do.
Or they sell the entire company, like 23AndMe just did.
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I'm not saying it's a perfect service, I'd rather all private messages be E2E encrypted, but there's no evidence Discord themselves have ever sold any data, so I don't understand why we are making crazy claims when them collecting data is a privacy issue enough on it's own.
Calls recently got encryption, so while Discord is as popular as it is, we can only hope they keep expanding encryption into other areas.
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The data collected sounds like a nothing-burger. Of course they collect the data you upload, and of course they store data (like messages) that need to continue to be networked to clients.
How they use the data does sound like corporate trash though.
Sadly there are a lot of communities that are only on Discord.
I would love to if all of the most helpful specialized communities didn’t all use it.
I can’t even get my friends or family to use Matrix/Element, let alone the masses.
Trust me, I want to make the full switch, but if I’m hanging out on my fancy open source server with no one on it, what’s the point?
I will agree that anything akin to Facebook or Xitter isn’t helping achieve anything, since they don’t provide communication that can’t be found elsewhere (social updates, memes, event invitations, etc), but for communities like this specifically, there’s just not many other places to go.
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This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection. In the server admin dashboard, you can require a phone number on the account or you can disable it and allow users without verified phone numbers to participate.
They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It's likely due to whatever discord server you're trying to join.
Same for Twitch. Same for a Microsoft account. It's become the new normal.
I work in the cybersecurity field and I hate that the official discord server of one of the international orgs I'm involved in requires a phone number to participate. The irony.
I don't think many people know about sim-swap attacks, so they think people knowing their phone number is fine.
Honestly I wish people would just fucking get rid of phone-number-based OTP anyways. TOTP is where it's at.
This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection.
That's the official explanation. A phone number is a nice way to attach a real world identity to the data (which of course is sold to advertisers/data brokers etc).
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They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.
This has changed, it gives you this popup whenever you make a new account, even if you haven't joined any servers. I tried making an account for my brother a few months ago, and I saw this as well.
Discord definitely does have phone number verification on selected accounts if it thinks you are doing something suspicious. Just try making a discord account with protonmail and on a VPN and you should get a similar message.
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discord's been doing this for a while, it's really scummy
other companies that do this (that I've found):
- twitter (even before muskrat bought it)
- probably a lot more
Year of Elements/Matrix when?
I really like using Element, but there are so many issues besides the not so intuitive account system, that deters the average user
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Stop using trash service
What are some alternatives for discord??
Matrix is the main one I think
Matrix is great but it's got the same problem as every other communication service, it's only useful when other people are on it.
I use it and encourage my friends to but they just look at me like I'm crazy
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What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?
Because legal people get the protection of the law, shiti organics are there to be abused by legal people.
For what it's worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven't gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I'll come back and update.
Can we just go back to irc already?
If we had ircv3 specs that included reactions. etc we might be. I rolled a small group of IRC servers with a few selfhost people a year back and it was quite fun. Tbh IRC itself is still alive and well, it's just not user friendly enough to get non-tech people over easily
What the FUCK.
I immediately went to settings and, I guess at some point I'd already given these swine my phone number? Went to remove it and I've greeted by this wonderful toast message=
God I wish something was fully suitable as an easy discord replacement 😭 spacebar seems rad if it wasn't super alpha. And as cool as element is, it just doesn't have the same low bar to entry that discord has (not to mention group calls are jank as hell, when they work, and there's no screen share yet tragically)....
Just change your number to something like 07777777777. That will work for the UK.
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Which is the reason I don’t have a discord account. I just can’t be bothered.
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There was a server I poked around in once that required members to provide phone number just to join. Seems very unethical considering all the bad things that can happen from identity theft or stalking.... it's not like mods are employees for Discord. They're just random mofos. Why would I trust a stranger on the Internet of all places?
The server owners cannot see your phone number. It's just a way to keep bots and assholes out most of the time.
The server owners can’t see your phone number. Discord allows you to set a minimum verification level for users in your server. The lowest is simply having a verified email on their account. The highest is a verified email, a few minutes old (so no brand new accounts), been in the server for a few minutes, and a verified phone number. It’s just a bot prevention thing, because spammers/scammers are a big issue on large Discord servers. Especially early in Discord’s history, it was a big issue where bots would raid a server and just totally shut it down with spam links. So Discord started allowing server owners to set minimum verification levels before users could interact and send messages.
for me it wanted one after i added too many friends at once
it some agressive anti spam "ai" that more or less randomly decides if it wants a phone number or not
I created an account without a phone number. What really anoys me is there focus on IP addresses. They apparently don't realize IPs rotate.
I needed my for some kind of organized event, it took them a week to take my account out of the spam filter, where they put me without event saying a word. By then it was too late, I made the fucking account and gave them my number for nothing else than troubles.
It's a shame that spacebar and revolt did not really take off so far.
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It is a trade off vs scammers
Just after Elon Musk’s twitter (𝕏) made it a norm~
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