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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

How quickly most companies have walked back all of the "moral" stances they have taken over the last few years, all within just a few weeks of the political winds changing, should be a lesson to everyone that there is no such thing as an ethical publicly traded company.

They will do what they think will make the most money for the shareholders, no matter what. If you want them too "pay", the only choice is to stop giving them money.

If anyone ever pays any attention to a company's posturing and dewy eyes they are truly naive. It is just pandering at best. It is why I want them to be honest and cut out all of the "We celebrate group _____" and all that and just be honest. "We want to increase our stock price by 5 cents." The best they can be is neutral. A small private company can be positive though.

[–] Waldschrat@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

Hmmmm, money

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Money talks and even flat earthers and antivaxx trolls have money.

[–] SuluBeddu@feddit.it 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually last time I checked apple did their keynotes mentioning the environment and stuff, greenwashing their choices... I'm curious what they'll do now.

Just like Tesla, they might have saturated their liberal userbase, I wouldn't be too surprised if they took a more "neutral" stance

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Neutral in this instance being pro fascist

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

Apple never was, and never will be not an evil company so why the surprise? Of course they do.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Bend the knee

I can't help but feel that a lot of companies would have been better off just staying out of controversial issues only tangentially related to their business.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 148 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The one silver lining about the new US administration is that it has helped undermine some fundamental notions around American exceptionalism.

American oligarchs are not that different from oligarchs in other countries.

[–] Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Its been wonderful purging all my american owned crap from my smart speakers to reddit. Looking forward to getting a linux desktop for the first time in nearly 10 years!

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Agreed, moving away from American tech stuff is becoming a priority.

American oligarchs are no better than the oligarchs who work with putin or Xi. Perhaps even worse because they tend to be much more dishonest in their rhetoric (constant pompous rants about "changing the world for the better").

[–] Cosmo_IV@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just switched over to Linux Mint and, while it's not perfect, it's so much better than windows.

[–] kat@orbi.camp 1 points 6 days ago

Fedora here and loving the switch from big tech.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

If your last time using Linux was 10 years ago you're going to be SO PLEASED at how good it is now.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 120 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tim Apple, Nazi collaborator and sympathizer.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 103 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That ring, it feels nice to kiss it - Tim Apple

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not that ring... The other ring... - Tim Apple

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Apple is just like the rest of big tech. They tried to play it as if they were the ethical one, but in the end all these private corpos are just the same.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Microsoft/Bill Gates only got a worse rap because they were more successful

[–] SuluBeddu@feddit.it 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Actually about Gates, does anyone know about his stance on the current fascist takeover?

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He's notoriously short $TSLA, so probably not a big fan of Elon.

[–] SuluBeddu@feddit.it 1 points 6 days ago
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess a lot of good people will ditch Apple now, right? RIGHT?

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

For other potentially worse manufacturers. I hate how far it’s all gone, but even buying a used/secondhand device is empowering the prior own to support one of these manufacturers.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I did only a quick search really but couldn’t find if any major android phone manufacturers had stopped advertising on there?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

FOSS alternatives exist for many Android devices. Apple goes to great lengths to block every alternative on all hardware that isn't mac. I've been on iOS since the 3G, but have just purchased an older pixel to start migrating apps and data to GrapheneOS. I wish Pine phone had GOS, but it is what it is.

There is no negotiating with fascists, and Apples #1 market is the US. There is no chance in hell they will defy or deny fascism.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But that's all changing the subject.

His point was, at least Apple made a stand to begin with. Sure, they didn't stick to their guns in the end, but if Apple left, while Android manufacturers continued advertising on Xitter this whole time, then isn't Apple still showing more spine than the others? Does it really make sense to leave Apple for Android over this?

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

I'm looking for silver linings and I suppose the marketing people at these companies are much less stressed to have to keep Googling, "how to pretend to give a shit about fellow humans" every time they need to produce a few hundred characters.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] lengau@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

At least the mask is off. Apple, Google, Meta. None of them care about anything but profit and there isn’t a value they aren’t willing to compromise on if it makes the line go up.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago

All in bed together. Didn’t they both attend Mar A Lago? No way they’re going to separate.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Next up is Tim apple announcing his conversion therapy was successful and that he will now be marrying a blonde fox news anchor on the white house lawn. He'll then run for Lindsey Graham's senate seat and carry on the tradition of being the most closeted man in the Senate... And the world.

When Lindsey Graham was asked who his first lady would be should he ever win the presidency, he replied... "My sister".

Just can't take those swinging bachelors off the market.. one at a time ladies.

[–] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago
[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

Trying to get on president musk's good side

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