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A great way to learn the basics. It'll be old, but that's ok. It's going to cover all the shell basics and then more. It's still going to be useful, it'll cost you pennies, you'll be able to dip into it when you want, and you'll be giving to a good cause.

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[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

FFS! Yeah, right. Let's all learn about init.d , Xfree86.conf, samba, and how to recompile a kernel using curses.

Yeah, those old books were out of date when they came out.

[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

Of course there are going to be passages to skip as with any technical reference.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

Don't knock samba!

Samba + mDNS makes cross platform network attached storage so easy my grandma could use it!

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

OK Boomer.

Counterpoint: everything one needs to learn Linux is online.

[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Your opinions don't align with mine, so I'm going to personally insult you.

It's this toxic attitude that we reject. If you prefer to stare at screens all the time causing damage to your retinas, then I'm happy for you.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

You gave a command, I rejected it.

[–] MXX53@programming.dev 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Physical books are great. Internet goes out or other devices die and you need to complete work. These are reasons I like to have book references.

Also, one of my favorite things to do when reading is writing in my margins. When I figure something out or find something interesting I like to write it in my own words in the margins, and then if I have to reference again, I have my own words and explanation in the margins to help myself understand faster and better.

I also like to add sticky notes for the same purpose.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Find an online guide. Print to PDF or save as HTML/ODF/whatever you like. Annotate the document. Now notes and article are searchable. I guess a physical book might have an advantage if the power went out, but at that point you're going to have other problems implementing the things the book suggests.

[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

If you're going to print something, just buy a book. It's much cheaper and you don't have to deal with the carcinogenic effects from the printing.

Online guides are often poorly written.

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Internet service can go out without the power going out, you know. Not everyone has the good fortune to live in a place with quality infrastructure or multiple choices of ISP.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 16 hours ago

Who needs manuals!? Download the source code! Don't RTFM. RTFSC!
The code is the documentation!

Get ed!

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

If the internet is gone I have no need for a Linux box.

E: and if it is really just me in my own LAN then I have the man pages

[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

If the internet is gone I have no need for a Linux box.

Linux isn't dependent on the internet FYI. It doesn't send telemetrics data to Microsoft for example.

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really nostalgic about the times when you were taught computer stuff in physical books. The only ones I have nowadays in physical format is Code Complete and Clean Code...

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

I did SEC+ entirely from book, i kinda prefer books tbh. Nothing like a slapping a manual on a table and saying RTFM.

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

I have an old Fedora book which still has a Fedora 15 disk in it! Helped me realize on old PC's to burn the ISO onto a DVD for installation instead of finding a work around for not having a USB boot option in the BIOS.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the GUI may change, but bash goes on forever. 😉

(Seriously, if you need a sed primer or something, an old copy of O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell is a decent resource.)

[–] 0101100101@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Exactly! The old books cover the terminal commands really well and almost everything will still apply. If you read it cover to cover, you're going to end up knowing more commands than most daily users of Linux and it'd help you with any networking / IT courses you intend to study.

[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buy a second hand linux book you say.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I remember spend hours learning Novell networks for the CNE exam. With 18 months of me qualifying, most people had gone to NT . That’s when I quit networking and became a project manager